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Re: [dita] Nested Sections

  • 1.  Re: [dita] Nested Sections

    Posted 11-03-2005 15:09
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    Subject: Re: [dita] Nested Sections


    Paul Prescod wrote:
    
    > If topic-based authoring means anythng then it means that you don't
    > arbitrarily shred everything with a title into a topic. Topics are
    > things that have meaning ON THEIR OWN. A section that is inherently
    > embedded in its context should not become a topic to fulfill an
    > arbitrary requirement of a framework.
    
    I think this is the crux of the discussion: some things *must* be topics 
    and some things *must not* be topics--that is the distinction between 
    topic and section.
    
    In particular, if the information is titled but cannot stand alone then 
    it *cannot be* a topic and therefore must be a section. If it can stand 
    alone and it is a candidate for re-use (in the sense that it is not 
    explicit disallowed as a re-use target) then it must be a topic.
    
    Whether or not a section has sub-hierarchies is irrelevant: either it 
    stands alone if it doesn't. Just having sub-hierarchy doesn't affect its 
    standaloneness.
    
    Therefore I submit that, from the standpoint of topic-based writing it 
    doesn't matter whether sections nest or not, the problem is the same: is 
    what I'm writing obligated to be or not be a topic? This is the 
    fundamental challenge of topic-oriented writing.
    
    It is also the case that allowing nested sections allows abuse by 
    authors, but that cannot be our concern: we are not responsible for 
    enforcing authoring policy, only for enabling satisfaction of 
    requirements. If nested section is a loaded gun then we have an 
    obligation to provide gun safety training but we can't simply outlaw 
    guns because some people might shoot themselves.
    
    That is, given that we understand the distinction between topics and 
    not-topics and the implications of making that distinction correctly we 
    have an obligation to educate the community on how to make that 
    distinction clearly.
    
    I have heard from others, who shall be nameless, that they have abused 
    other elements specifically in order to get the effect of nested 
    sections. This is additional strong evidence that there is a legitimate 
    and compelling requirement for such a structure.
    
    It's also important to keep in mind that the very beauty of DITA is that 
    specializers can impose any constraints they want (consistent with the 
    base content models), so if people want a world where nested sections 
    are not allowed they can easily build that world.
    
    Cheers,
    
    E.
    
    
    


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