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CAP 1.1 Standard and ITU-T Recommendation - TC Task 3 (ASN.1)

  • 1.  CAP 1.1 Standard and ITU-T Recommendation - TC Task 3 (ASN.1)

    Posted 04-26-2007 16:08
    Thanks Eliot!  I will also post this to the list.  I have renamed the 
    subject and this will begin the ASN.1 task 3 thread.  Please reply to 
    this thread with any comments.  Elysa
    
    At 10:39 AM 4/26/2007, Eliot Christian wrote:
    >Hi Elysa
    >
    >In the given ASN.1, the values in the enumerated lists are all listed
    >with initial characters in lower case. The XML version has used upper
    >case as the initial character. I doubt that ASN.1 really cares about
    >the capitalization of string values, so I'd suggest these be changed
    >to match the XML string values. (Note that the ASN.1 usage results in
    >this peculiar-looking value: "cBRNE").
    >
    >I'm feeling that the comments in the "area" element are not quite
    >as clear as they need to be. In section 1.5 of the standard, there
    >is a note about the representation of each point with coordinates
    >given as a comma separated pair of signed decimal degrees in the
    >order of latitude followed by longitude. Perhaps this definition
    >of a geographic point as represented by a "lat,lon" coordinate pair
    >could be copied into the ASN.1. Then, the ASN.1 could describe a
    >"circle-list" as: "A space-separated list of circles with each circle
    >defined by the geographic point at its center point, a comma, and the
    >circle radius; the radius unit being given in kilometers". (As it
    >stands now, it is not very clear where the spaces and commas belong.)
    >
    >The description of "altitude" also should note that its unit of measure
    >is "feet above mean sea level".
    >
    >I would also mention one other comment about "area", particular to
    >the polygon. We ought to have stated that the "winding order" of points
    >around the polygon is counter-clockwise. This is difficult for software
    >to infer, and the inference procedure would be just plain wrong for any
    >area that extends more than halfway around the Earth, e.g, the Pacific.
    >
    >Eliot
    >
    >
    >At 10:12 AM 4/26/2007, you wrote:
    > >Dear TC Members,
    > >
    > >As we were busy with our face to face meeting last week the ITU 
    > folks were busy working on integrating our CAP 1.1 Standard into 
    > their format and process.  They produced two recommendations that 
    > are attached for your review.
    > >
    > >The first is to be an exact representation of our existing CAP 1.1 
    > Standard in the ITU Recommendation format.  They were required by 
    > their guidelines and process to make changes to some of the 
    > normative references we used.  Other than that it is supposed to be 
    > a match.  The second attachment is a recommendation for the 
    > addition of ASN.1 encoding.
    > >
    > >The ITU team has requested that we respond by May 1 on these 
    > recommendations.  I have been working with OASIS Staff to consider 
    > how to move forward as expeditiously as possible.  Different 
    > members of the staff are working to ensure we follow the proper 
    > IPR, process, etc.  For example, ASN.1 needs to be "contributed" to 
    > OASIS for this purpose.
    > >
    > >If we agree as a TC that this is indeed a complete and correct 
    > description of our Standard and we agree to accept the ASN.1 
    > encoding that it is technically equivalent to our Standard, and 
    > therefore non-substantive, we could process this document through 
    > the OASIS process as an errata.  This appears to be the most 
    > efficient way to proceed given the OASIS process.
    > >
    > >The changes to the normative references need to be studied in some 
    > detail.  It has also been noted that in ITU recommendation that in 
    > the DOM, Response Type is not specified correctly.  It is, however, 
    > correct in their Data Dictionary.  They did not have the benefit of 
    > the correction to "assess".  As you recall, we listed "assess" in 
    > our data dictionary but it was not listed in the schema and we have 
    > already prepared errata document for that (thanks to Patti and 
    > Rex).  This errata has been voted on by the TC but not yet 
    > submitted for 15-day public comment.
    > >
    > >Since there is already one noted discrepancy in the ITU 
    > recommendation (between their DOM and data dictionary), I am 
    > hopeful that they will make this minor correction as well as the 
    > one for "assess" and we can move forward without them having to go 
    > through another recommendation cycle.  I think we are all in 
    > agreement that it would be best if these Standards can track 
    > directly and do not splinter.
    > >
    > >With there only being less than a week for us to meet their 
    > requested response time, I am hopeful that all of you will take a 
    > good hard look at these changes and post any questions/comments to 
    > the list.  If we break this task up into pieces, it may help.  The 
    > more eyes the better.
    > >
    > >Tasks:
    > >1.  Read/compare documents word for word and list any discrepancies
    > >2.  Study the normative references to be sure they are correct
    > >3.  Validate the ASN.1 notation is a correct representation and 
    > technically equivalent to the XML schema
    > >
    > >Jamie Clark and I are doing #1, others please join in.  Could a 
    > couple of you agree to comb through the references and compare?  Is 
    > there one or more of our members who are (or have access to someone 
    > that is)  ASN.1 knowledgeable that can verify the ASN schema, 
    > please identify yourself and work this part.
    > >
    > >Please respond to this note with your willingness to take on a 
    > task, then we can start a discussion list on each task.  Also with 
    > your response, let me know 2 or 3 times when you would be available 
    > for a telecon to discuss over the next few days.  I suggest we 
    > schedule one for either Thurs or Fri evening when Renato and Karen 
    > might be available and possibly one for Sunday or Monday 
    > evening.  We have a normally scheduled TC meeting on Tues, May 1 
    > where we can do any final voting that may be necessary.  Other 
    > suggestions welcomed.
    > >
    > >In the interest of public safety worldwide, let's take this time 
    > to get this work complete!  However, let's make sure it is 
    > correct.  Thanks to all of you and your hard work and contributions.
    > >
    > >Warm regards,
    > >Elysa Jones, Chair
    > >OASIS EM-TC
    > >Program Manager
    > >Warning Systems, Inc.
    > >256-880-8702 x102
    > >256-694-8702 (cell)
    > >
    > >