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RE: [emergency] Groups - EDIT of emergency-CAPv-1.1

  • 1.  RE: [emergency] Groups - EDIT of emergency-CAPv-1.1

    Posted 03-18-2005 14:38
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    Subject: RE: [emergency] Groups - EDIT of emergency-CAPv-1.1


    I don't have any objections to this practice for design. My concerns are:
    
    1) Where do we get our external code lists/tables? We already know 
    that there will be more than one single source since CBRN is a 
    category unto itself, as are several GJXDM-proxied/imported 
    standards/code lists (some of which we need to pay for unless there 
    is an agreement between standards bodies that provides for sharing 
    these resources of which I happen to be unaware) and  then there is 
    IEEE 1512 which also entails acquiring three (3) standards. We can't 
    refer to black boxes, after all, not if we wish to perform due 
    diligence, and even if it were possible to extend blind trust for our 
    fellow standards bodies, I would dig my heels in on that for my own 
    peace of mind.
    
    2) How do we reliably reference these external code lists/tables? I 
    can guarantee that I will recommend against any proxy mechanism that 
    contains the chokepoints I have already identified, and I don't think 
    we really want to incur the network messaging overhead required to 
    convert and validate 1512 alone, notwithstanding the other little 
    black holes into which our parsers and validators can disappear.
    
    My points converge on a conclusion I have been coming to for quite a 
    while now as I explored the twists and turns of these various 
    vocabularies. That conclusion is that we need a reliable way to 
    abstract these code lists out of our work and confine the whole 
    distribution element to a slightly higher level of abstraction, 
    somehow.
    
    Of course, it is the somehow that has me stumped. All I really know 
    at this point is that if we continue attempting to cover details of 
    vocabularies for every constituency in the distribution header, the 
    darn thing is going to be so complicated as to be inoperable period, 
    let alone interoperable.
    
    We have neither the time nor the resources to do that, so we might 
    want to focus on how to solicit aid from the other standards bodies 
    and governmental offices to resolve some of these issues so that we 
    can reliably reference these external code lists/tables and harmonise 
    the top level base or core ontology of Event/Incident Types in such a 
    way that the distribution element only needs to include those 
    references while the particular taxonomies for specific 
    incidents/events that belong to those top level types can safely be 
    relegated to the body of the message.
    
    This same advice applies to the simultaneous discussion we are having 
    in regard to the area/areaDesc components.
    
    Ciao,
    Rex
    
    At 8:33 AM -0500 3/18/05, Ham, Gary A wrote:
    >I agree with Mike, assuming that the actual XML messages remain human
    >readable (with the possible exception of the polygons.)  Encapsulation
    >of concerns is a good idea, particularly for unstable categorization
    >lists. 
    >
    >Rrepsectfully,
    >
    >Gary A. Ham
    >Senior Research Scientist
    >Battelle Memorial Institute
    >540-288-5611 (office)
    >703-869-6241 (cell)
    >"You would be surprised what you can accomplish when you do not care who
    >gets the credit." - Harry S. Truman
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