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  • 1.  Re: [emergency] GJXDM vs EDXL Distribution isses

    Posted 12-29-2004 21:15
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    Subject: Re: [emergency] GJXDM vs EDXL Distribution isses


    Michael, it's not my intent to disturb you.  However, I assume you'd 
    agree that there's also a risk in trying to force what may prove to 
    be unlike concepts into like boxes just for short-term convenience.
    
    We need to look carefully at the realities of the real-world 
    applications and processes before reflexively adopting prior art just 
    because "it was there first."  I'm sure you're not suggesting the 
    latter approach.  Nor have I ever objected to reuse where it's 
    appropriate.
    
    - Art
    
    
    At 4:04 PM -0500 12/29/04, Daconta, Michael wrote:
    >This email thread is disturbing... I would hope this TC can avoid 
    >the "not invented here syndrome" and focus on reusing schema 
    >elements where the concepts are equivalent or can be aligned.
    >--------------------------
    >Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
    >
    >
    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: Art Botterell <acb@incident.com>
    >To: emergency@lists.oasis-open.org <emergency@lists.oasis-open.org>
    >Sent: Wed Dec 29 15:43:52 2004
    >Subject: Re: [emergency] GJXDM vs EDXL Distribution isses
    >
    >At 9:34 AM -0500 12/29/04, Ham, Gary A wrote:
    >>To be GJXDM compliant we would probably have to change the "eventType"
    >>to something more akin to "EmergencyEventTypeCode"...
    >
    >I'm not sure whether "compliant" is the right criterion.  Our
    >functional goal is "compatible"... framing it in terms of compliance
    >transforms a technical issue into a political one.  I'm not sure
    >that's either necessary or wise.
    >
    >Not necessary because we have the mechanism of namespaces to allow
    >domain-specific element design choices to be made "close to the
    >ground," nearer to functional concerns and farther from bureaucratic
    >ones.  It gives us a viable alternative to the
    >grand-unified-data-model-of-everything approach, which I'm afraid may
    >be self-defeating in its scope.
    >
    >And not wise for several reasons:
    >
    >1) Adopting a stance of "compliance" to one user group... in this
    >case, the justice community... necessarily distances us a bit from
    >others... fire, transportation, health, etc.  While I realize that
    >Justice is ascendant in post-9/11 America, we're part of an
    >international standards organization and those of us who've been at
    >this for awhile have seen these trends shift back and forth over the
    >decades.
    >
    >2) There's a learning curve here.  As Gary points out, just because
    >the GJXDM was the earliest and largest doesn't mean it got everything
    >right.  We need to leave the door open for learning and improvement.
    >(After all, the US had the first color television standard in the
    >world... and as a result spent the next forty years looking at the
    >worst color tv pictures in the world.)
    >
    >3) As mentioned above, the wider the scope of a data model, the more
    >technical and political inertia it accumulates.  Keeping a degree of
    >compartmentalization lends flexibility, so long as there's a
    >mechanism (e.g., namespaces) for preventing collisions.
    >
    >Now I'm not arguing against adopting an ISO 11179-based naming
    >scheme.  I'm just suggesting that we ought to think carefully and
    >explicitly before slipping into an assumption that we're somehow
    >obliged to comply with some other group's scheme.
    >
    >- Art
    >--
    >Art Botterell
    >Common Alerting Protocol Program Manager
    >Partnership for Public Warning
    >www.PartnershipForPublicWarning.org
    >(707) 750-1006
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