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    Posted 01-18-2005 16:28
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    Subject: Re: [emergency] Groups - CAP 1.1 Subcommittee Draft (CAP_1.1-draft_1-4-05) uploaded


    Got this. Will discuss in the GIS SC.  Of course, if OASIS CAP referenced
    the OGC/ISO Spatial Referencing by Coordinates (Coordinate Reference
    System) standards and EPSG as the normative reference for CRS parameters,
    there would be no issue :-) Also, if CAP is used outside the US, the
    proposed approach for "signing coordinates" runs into serious problems in
    a number of countries - such as South Africa, which uses the Lo-Gauss
    projection.
    Cheers
    
    Carl
    
    > Actually, I sent the same language to Allen Wyke
    > who posted it to this list July 14, 2004 :-)
    >
    > -jeff
    >
    > On Jan 18, 2005, at 6:39 AM, Art Botterell wrote:
    >
    >> At last, a constructive suggestion!  Personally I'd have no problem
    >> with that suggested language, although my opinion isn't what matters.
    >>  I think this issue was referred back to the GIS subcommittee last
    >> week, so I'm forwarding this to them.
    >>
    >> Thanks!
    >>
    >> - Art
    >>
    >> At 5:44 AM -0600 1/18/05, Jeff Kyser wrote:
    >>> Still seems to me that the following is clearer
    >>> and more precise (Section 3.3.1):
    >>>
    >>> 	Latitudes in the Southern Hemisphere and longitudes in the
    >>> 	Western Hemisphere are signed negative with a leading dash.
    >>>
    >>> (as opposed to 'Coordinates in the Southern and Western Hemispheres
    >>> ...')
    >>>
    >>> A similar sentence has been added to Section 1.5, it would benefit
    >>> from
    >>> the same language.
    >>>
    >>> -jeff
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On Jan 9, 2005, at 10:14 PM, Art Botterell wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Bob -
    >>>>
    >>>> Your concern was discussed at some length by both the GIS and
    >>>> Messaging Subcommittees.  During the 11/30 call the Messaging
    >>>> Subcommittee took up Issue 14 and voted to stick with this
    >>>> formulation, which is in line with GIS industry and ISO usage.
    >>>>
    >>>> Of course you're welcome to offer an amendment to the full TC for
    >>>> discussion on our next call, hopefully with some specific alternate
    >>>>  language.  After that it'll be up to the Committee.
    >>>>
    >>>> - Art
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> At 10:35 PM -0500 1/9/05, Bob Wyman wrote:
    >>>>> Art Botterell wrote:
    >>>>>>  The CAP 1.1 spec as approved by the Messaging Subcommittee.
    >>>>>> Please
    >>>>>>  review for approval to move it to public comment ASAP.
    >>>>> 	In the issues list for the CAP specification, it is stated that
    >>>>> issue 14 would be addressed in 1.1... Yet, the offending and
    >>>>> non-sensical
    >>>>> sentence "Coordinates in the Southern and Western hemispheres are
    >>>>> signed
    >>>>> negative with a leading dash." remains in the specification. As I
    >>>>> have been
    >>>>> saying, since before 1.0 was approved by this working group,
    >>>>> "coordinates"
    >>>>> can't be signed -- only the components of a coordinate can be
    >>>>> signed.
    >>>>> 	I suggest that an effort should be made to incorporate committed
    >>>>> changes to the specification before it is released for public
    >>>>> comment.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> 	bob wyman
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>