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RE: [emergency] EDXL/CAP Survey

  • 1.  RE: [emergency] EDXL/CAP Survey

    Posted 06-14-2005 14:51
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    Subject: RE: [emergency] EDXL/CAP Survey


    Ok.  Here is the other view:
    
    As I sit here looking through the DRM, I am lightly convinced 
    that the chances the public safety industry will be implementing 
    this soon are functionally zero.
    
    The problem of any top down design is the bottom up legacy that ensures that
    
    no clean break can ever be made given an active procurement cycle.
    No one starts from scratch and the active legacy is much more 
    important to the agency than Federal mandates.  Changing a tire 
    on a moving car in an intersection is dangerous work.
    
    GJXDM as a big honking piece of middleware for bits on the 
    wire is possible.  It isn't likely that the relational system 
    schemas will be changed to match the unwieldy and verbose 
    GJ elements:
    
    1.  Not a good design for relational systems.  Performance 
        requirements for queries typically range from one to 
        four seconds for a query of medium complexity.  These 
        designs favor too much standalone context.
    2.  It is too disruptive to unhorse all of the 
        current systems to convert their data.
    3.  RDF is a non-starter.  Show us the commercial 
        frameworks (say operating systems and programming 
        frameworks with more than 10% of the market) that 
        support it today because even if supported today, 
        there is about a three to five year gap to fielding of 
        robust, secure, reliable products.
    4.  IEPs are a good idea but every agency we 
        deal with has its own reports, some State mandated, 
        some agency mandated, some JIT ad hoc.  How many 
        years are given for any local agency to convert to 
        the IEPs (keep in mind how many states are still UCR 
        despite NIBRS)?
    
    At some point, DHS and DoJ are going to realize that 
    there isn't enough funding to get this done and they 
    will vastly simplify the requirements.  The Federal 
    budget is strained and there is no end in sight to the 
    Executive-initiated events that are draining resources.
    
    A roll-out plan that confronts the reality of the 
    procurement and legacy issues is needed.  It will 
    have to be much simpler because submarining these 
    languages in by reference to GJXDM means that the 
    vendors and procurement officials will waive the 
    bulk of GJXDM in favor of the 'most useful' subset 
    as determined by the local agency.
    
    len
    
    
    From: Rex Brooks [mailto:rexb@starbourne.com]
    
    Hi Len,
    
    CAP is now included in GJXDM, so RFPs contingent on the GJXDM are 
    also axiomatically contingent on CAP compliance within GJXDM, if 
    required.
    
    DHS will likely stipulate CAP in its applicable RFPs. the Public 
    Forum for the Data Reference Model yesterday included CAP because it 
    was part of the pilot we (Starbourne) will be doing for the Semantic 
    Interoperability Architecture effort for September. I will keep this 
    group apprised of that work as it proceeds.
    
    EDXL is likely to be a key piece of NIMS as it gets built out. We are 
    hammering on the Distribution Element again today.
    
    Ciao,
    Rex
    
    At 8:39 AM -0500 6/14/05, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
    >Something to chew on.   This week I received
    >a COMCARE survey for information on EDXL/CAP
    >implementations, customers, populations served, etc.
    >I have to reply that as of this time, we have
    >no information about that to be released.
    >
    >As mentioned previously, public safety is an
    >RFP-driven business.   Requirements that don't
    >show up in at least three separate RFPs aren't
    >likely to be implemented soon if ever.  How
    >is this group and its supporters in government
    >working to see to it that these specifications
    >and standards are introduced commercially to
    >the public safety industry through procurement
    >processes?
    >
    >Are there papers that explicitly illustrate where
    >these standards fit into the product mix that an
    >agency would be acquiring when purchasing say
    >Dispatch, police, fire and EMT records systems?
    >
    >Who declares a situation that would result in
    >an EDXL/CAP message being broadcast?  Who receives
    >it and under what jurisdiction?
    >
    >We've discussed some of these topics briefly in the
    >past, but I think that before we will see these
    >standards in more than one or two very large
    >procurements, the procurement officials need help
    >with the requirements language.  I see mentions of
    >GJXDM but little of EDXL/CAP.
    >
    >len
    >
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    Rex Brooks
    President, CEO
    Starbourne Communications Design
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