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Re: [emergency] Public as responders: Royalties

  • 1.  Re: [emergency] Public as responders: Royalties

    Posted 10-09-2003 18:14
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    Subject: Re: [emergency] Public as responders: Royalties


    Thanks, Carl,
    
    The Mime Type or SOAP with attachments routes are what I would 
    propose after a discussion of the issue as presented by PPW first. So 
    I agree with you wholeheartedly, and I think that what we should 
    consider is still to move forward and go into public review, which is 
    a process that carries enough weight that, given adequate 
    notification, the TV people can get their needs addressed on the 
    basis that is best for all concerned.
    
    Ciao,
    Rex
    
    
    At 10:33 AM -0600 10/9/03, Carl Reed wrote:
    >On the issue of royalties . . .  in a way this emerging discussion sounds
    >very similar to discussions that occurred for a period of time in the IETF
    >GeoPRIV Working Group. This group is concerned with privacy and location
    >information in the mobile world. For a period of time they gnashed their
    >teeth on trying to address all the possible implications of the various
    >privacy laws around the world and thought perhaps that they could define
    >some level of privacy policy. While this provided them a level of
    >understanding regarding requirements for privacy and location it got them no
    >closer to a specification solution. So they decided to step back one level
    >of abstraction and have now defined a draft specification for encoding
    >privacy rules as part of a payload (could be DHCP) in the Internet world.
    >What this means is that they removed themselves from the legal and policy
    >issues surrounding privacy and moved into an environment in which the
    >application worries about all of this and is responsible for defining the
    >privacy rules. In this way, the spec does not concern itself with a nations
    >or organizations specific privacy policies.
    >
    >Also, in the OGC we have a similar situation. Many producers of geospatial
    >information require pay for use. So how can we provide seamless access in an
    >interoperable world of geospatial information sharing - such as in an
    >emergency response situation? There are definitely royalty, copyright,
    >legal, and payment issues. On thing we discovered is that we do not try to
    >solve the royalty/copyright issue at the data access interface or payload
    >level. This is silliness. Perhaps more importantly what we discovered is
    >that not only do we have technical interoperability issues but also
    >institutional and political interoperability issues. These two latter
    >interoperability issues are related to but are independent of the actual
    >interface specification or payload specification standard. The institutional
    >and political issues of data sharing need to be ironed out by the
    >constituents BEFORE an Emergency event occurs. In effect, the constituents
    >need to have some level of "contract" that enables full and complete sharing
    >of public, private, for fee, or free spatial data.
    >
    >So, I might suggest that 1.) the CAP interface/payload specification needs
    >slots (MIME?) to accommodate the ability to reference something like an
    >MPEG-4 but 2.) the actual requirements for dealing with royalty and
    >copyright and for fee should be handled at the application level and is
    >therefore 3.) not at the CAP spec level.
    >
    >Sorry for the long missive - I am usually short and blunt :-)
    >
    >Carl
    >
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