Interesting discussion. FYI, I have been invited to attend the next
meeting of the NBAC here in Washington DC on 28-29 Feb.
The DHS Domestic Nuclear Detection Office (DNDO) has formally adopted
EDXL DE (along with CAP 1.1) as part of their overarching data model.
We have been asked by DHS to document our messaging approach in the
approved NIEM IEPD format, for submission to the DHS NIEM office for
consideration as an extension to the NIEM core. That work is well
underway.
So yes, there are some initial efforts to gain recognition of the OASIS
standards as part of the DHS NIEM implementations. We are actually
fielding a messaging system through our Southeast Transportation
Corridor Pilot effort, and it will use the messaging protocols (with
OASIS standards) that we are submitting to NIEM. This exercise involves
nine States and the District of Columbia, and will provide some
real-world benchmarks for how well it all works together. We anticipate
initial capabilities in the April-May time frame, with a full
demonstration in the Fall.
Just an encouraging word that SOME folks at DHS are hearing the gospel
message.
Don Ponikvar
Donald R. Ponikvar, PhD
SETA Support, Mission Management Directorate
DHS/Domestic Nuclear Detection Office
Washington, DC 20528
voice: 202-254-7530
fax: 202-254-7751
Blackberry: 202-368-4922
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David,
You got it. I don't know about future plans. Although they do have a
formal template for domain content submission, there is no current
governance to deal with submissions. I understand they are trying to
stand
up the NBAC (NIEM Business Architecture Committee) again. NIEM
governance
would be their responsibility - but you are right, ownership and process
outside of NIEM is also key.
Thanks,
Tim
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From: David RR Webber (XML) [mailto:david@drrw.info]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:04 AM
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Subject: RE: [emergency] Emergency Management Vocabulary alignments?
Tim,
OK got it.
The NIEM is just a giant vocabulary intended to be the base definitions
for
building conforming message exchanges from.
So - no surprise they shredded OASIS messages into their base
components.
In future probably best to submit just the bsse definitions! They may
have
made changes to names of things to make sure they are fully NDR
compliant.
Again - that's something we can make sure of ahead of time too - but
would
be best to get agreement with NIEM on conformance and their signoff.
The current NIEM V2.0 is from June 2007. My guess is that at some point
NIEM V3.0 work will occur. They do have a formal submission process for
domain stuff. The ownership and process for that though - obviously
that's
the trick here - to ensure our stuff is incorporated, corrected and
updated
for that. Would be nice also - since its domain, not core or universal
definitions - if we could get those updated and corrected sooner than
that...
Some sleuthing into current contact points and so on.
DW
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