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Subject: Re: [emergency] Fwd: OASIS EM TC Category for EDXL standards
I think Art's suggestion is very good.
Rex
At 10:32 AM -0400 9/20/05, Art Botterell wrote:
>Might the promulgation and ongoing maintenance of a recommended
>standards profile fall within the scope of NIEM? Could the grant
>language simply reference such a listing?
>
>- Art
>
>
>On Sep 19, 2005, at 6:44 AM, Elysa Jones wrote:
>
>>Art and others,
>>I met last week with the DM program and the EIC and we discussed
>>this topic. There is guidance in the works for grant programs as
>>well for other federal agencies to use. The particular draft that
>>was circulated to the TC members was very preliminary. All agreed
>>that making EIC membership a requirement and forcing DMIS was not
>>in the best interest of anyone. The main reason for Bill Kalin
>>sending the message was to ask if we or someone at OASIS had run
>>into this naming issue before. That is, a way to reference several
>>standards all in the same discipline but on different upgrade and
>>development paths. He was particularly interested in getting some
>>wording from us that would reference the work being done now
>>including versions to follow as well as additional EDXL emerging
>>standards. They seem to want to avoid listing each separately and
>>are concerned about versions getting out of date. Any suggestions?
>>Elysa Jones, Chair
>>OASIS EM-TC
>>Engineering Program Manager
>>Warning Systems, Inc.
>>256-880-8702 x102
>>
>>At 05:19 PM 9/18/2005, Art Botterell wrote:
>>
>>>This strikes me as the wrong way to do the right thing. Certainly
>>>there should be grant guidance language that promotes the use of open
>>>standards and even perhaps particular ones.
>>>
>>>But this has the regrettable appearance of an attempt to carve out
>>>some bureaucratic turf for EIC and the DM program, by designating
>>>them as the sole legitimate source of such standards... even before
>>>those standards are identified, evaluated or even created.
>>>
>>>I would think that an eclectic profile of recommended standards,
>>>drawing from all the available sources and updated from time to time
>>>as new standards are formalized and old ones are updated, would be
>>>much more in the inclusive spirit of NEIM.
>>>
>>>And from a more tactical point of view, I think it could actually be
>>>damaging to the current positive reception and uptake of CAP within
>>>its target domain (alerting and warning) to complicate things by
>>>confusing it with the much broader, and as yet much less mature, EDXL
>>>program.
>>>
>>>For some time now our workplan has been to continue to promote and
>>>develop CAP separately while EDXL develops and mature, and then to
>>>create a fully EDXL-compliant version at CAP 2.0.
>>>
>>>I don't believe OASIS or the TC ought to change that approach for
>>>what appear to be merely bureaucratic reasons. Funding guidance
>>>language certainly could be written to include CAP and EDXL
>>>specifically without conflating the two prematurely or preemptively
>>>excluding other potential sources of valuable standards.
>>>
>>>Aside from being bad practice technically, I don't think OASIS and
>>>this TC want to get embroiled in external jurisdictional issues...
>>>especially not at a time where the whole current structure of
>>>emergency management is undergoing so much scrutiny at the highest
>>>policy levels.
>>>
>>>- Art
>>>
>>>On Sep 12, 2005, at 9/12/05 3:25 PM, Elysa Jones wrote:
>>>
>>>>TC Members, I received the following email from Bill Kalin
>>>>representing the DHS/DM program. There is specific grant guidance
>>>>language proposed for our review. I would prefer discussion begin
>>>>on the list and then we can take it up at the next regular TC call
>>>>9/20. Elysa
>>>>
>>>>>From: "Kalin, Bill" <Bill.Kalin@associates.dhs.gov>
>>>>>To: "'ejones@warningsystems.com'" <ejones@warningsystems.com>
>>>>>Cc: Matt Walton <mwalton3@gmail.com>, "Hines, Chip"
>>>>><Chip.Hines@dhs.gov>,
>>>>> "Baker, Ashley" <Ashley.Baker@associates.dhs.gov>,
>>>>> "McIntyre, Robert" <Robert.Mcintyre@associates.dhs.gov>,
>>>>> "Wood, Mark" <Mark.Wood@associates.dhs.gov>
>>>>>Subject: OASIS EM TC Category for EDXL standards
>>>>>Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 10:11:51 -0400
>>>>>
>>>>>Elysa - We have been asked by the Office of Management and Budget
>>>>>(OMB) to create standardized RFI/RFP language that federal
>>>>>agencies would required to use when seeking to purchase an
>>>>>incident management software application. We want to be able to
>>>>>refer to EDXL as a single set of standards as opposed to listing
>>>>>them all individually, including CAP. This is the first step in
>>>>>creating common grant guidance language that will be required when
>>>>>local, tribal and state governments are seeking to purchase
>>>>>incident management tools with DHS grant money. We believe this
>>>>>will strongly facilitate the adoption of standards within the
>>>>>vendor community and further develop this emerging market.
>>>>>
>>>>>What can be done via OASIS to help create this single type of
>>>>>category under the OASIS TC? I am attaching a draft of proposed
>>>>>language for the RFI/RFP's which includes a desired reference to
>>>>>the OASIS web site.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Bill Kalin
>>>>>Disaster Management eGov Initiative
>>>>>Office of the Chief Information Officer
>>>>>Emergency Preparedness and Response/FEMA
>>>>>Department of Homeland Security
>>>>>(202) 646-4347
>>>>>bill.kalin@associates.dhs.gov
>>>>>
>>>><Purchase_Guidance_DM.doc>
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