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RE: [emergency] EDXL-DE routing and valueListUrn

  • 1.  RE: [emergency] EDXL-DE routing and valueListUrn

    Posted 03-20-2006 23:58
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    Subject: RE: [emergency] EDXL-DE routing and valueListUrn


    Title: Re: [emergency] EDXL-DE routing and valueListUrn
    Carl
     
    All of scenarios you have proposed could use seperate valueListUrn to control distribution of data within defined Area of Responsiblities.  If transfer of data is needed between these AORs, methods for exchanging messages are avaiable.  When can we talk about this.  I believe all of your domain issues are potential misunderstandings how routing is accomplished.  
     
    David E. Ellis
    Information Management Architect
    (505) 844-6697


    From: Carl Reed OGC Account [mailto:creed@opengeospatial.org]
    Sent: Mon 3/20/2006 4:20 PM
    To: Ellis, David; SIA Pilot-6; emergency@lists.oasis-open.org
    Cc: Harry Haury; Haleftiras, Pericles; Glaser, Ronald
    Subject: Re: [emergency] EDXL-DE routing and valueListUrn

    David -

    While I understand the urgency and while I do not necessarily disagree with
    the contents of your slides on a National Effort for Emergency Data
    Distribution, I would like to add a few words of caution.

    First, what you have outlined are uses cases and requirements for one domain
    of use - alerts as related to secure US DoD sensor nets. I deal with folks
    doing sensor systems and networks in a number of other countries - all
    civilian. Any of these applications using sensors can create alerts. For
    example, a new water portal in Canada that will send alerts based on stream
    flow gauges, traffic alerts being generated by the new generation of ITS
    capabilities, weather alerts, and systems function alerts being generated by
    transducers, and so forth. We cannot loose sight of all the other potential
    use cases that drives the requirements for EDXL - now and in the future.

    Second, and related to the first, is the fact that OASIS is an international
    standards organization. As such, we cannot ignore requirements for using
    EDXL that may be extremely viable in other countries. It is unfortunate that
    we have had little input from organizations in other countries that have
    requirements similar to the US DoD. That is why I am very pleased with the
    progress of the Sensor Standards Harmonization work that NIST is
    spearheading.

    Third, we would be remiss in ignoring the potential for alerts coming from
    the emerging sensor nets being designed, built, and fairly recently deployed
    for home systems and office buildings (office sensor networks are much more
    mature). See http://www.usipv6.com/CES_Presentations/CES_Itaru_Mimura.pdf as
    well as all the work being done at UCLA (SOS) and Sun (SUN SPOT). These
    systems are envisioned as being able to automatically generate alerts (fire,
    carbon monoxide, health, etc).

    Finally, and anyone (someone) correct me if I am wrong, but perhaps the
    COMCARE EPAD system would be a repository/registry solution.

    So, I agree that current DHS and DoD requirements are very valid and those
    requirements must be answered by EDXL. But let's make sure we remain
    balanced in our approach so that other communities outside DoD and DHS are
    also fairly represented at that CAP and EDXL have used well beyond.

    Cheers

    Carl

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Ellis, David" <dellis@sandia.gov>
    To: "SIA Pilot-6" <sia-pilot6@humanml.cim3.net>;
    <emergency@lists.oasis-open.org>
    Cc: "Harry Haury" <hhaury@nuparadigm.com>; "Haleftiras, Pericles"
    <phaleftiras@systechnologies.com>; "Glaser, Ronald" <rfglase@sandia.gov>
    Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 10:11 AM
    Subject: [emergency] EDXL-DE routing and valueListUrn


    ALL

    I have a reasonably mature strategy for creating valueListUrn lists and
    how they can be used to deploy a national architecture for Alerting and
    Warning.  I have been trying to develop this to support Chips Disaster
    Management efforts (e.g. EDXL-RM) and to allow for national sensor
    capabilities (e.g. DNDO) to have the EDXL-DE routing system (execution
    context) which provides the following capabilities:

    1. Allow for establishment of Communities of Interest (COIs) where
    appropriate authority can establish roles of entities, information
    routing rules between them and issue certificate to ensure
    authentication and authorization.
    2. Permit interaction between COIs to instantiate robust MOUs enforced
    by execution context allowing creation of national information grid.
    3. Permit secure delivery of multiple levels of sensitive information
    via signing, encryption and labeling within the EDXL-DE.
    4. Allow abstraction of the implementation details (what) so national
    planners can implement various operational concepts (documented in
    DoDAF, FEA etc.) with minimal confusion on "how" it is accomplished.

    I have tried to engage NIEM for over one year to explain these concepts
    without success.  There is finally understanding between the various
    standards organization on how important this is to major government
    implementations.  On the other hand, major information providers are
    claim our capabilities either don't exist or have never been
    demonstrated.  Both are not true and in fact the EDXL-DE is being used
    in an operational system within the DoD.  Unfortunately, it is not
    branded as EDXL-DE since we have not issued the EDXL-DE OASIS standard
    yet.

    I need as many of the organization implementing EDXL-DE to attempt
    sending outputs from your applications to the developing EDXL-DE routing
    capability at NuParadigm in Saint Louis or our capability at Sandia
    National Laboratories.  Also, a generic ability to wrap CAP messages in
    EDXL has been created and we need to discuss the security implications
    of doing this from local applications or by the "execution context" for
    legacy/warning-only CAP applications.

    I need to be able to list all the capabilities of your applications even
    if they use explicated routing (e.g. DMIS COGs) and have no security
    capability.  The design of our governments emerging national
    capabilities is moving at lighting speed and EDXL-DE capabilities needs
    to be a substantial portion of it.  Attached are two briefings present
    this past week on sensor routing.

    David E. Ellis
    Information Management Architect
    (505) 844-6697