OASIS Member Discuss

Peter,
 
To the costs point - I don't think we have a conversion / legacy issue here.  OASIS can advise - but seems like little or no svn activity exists. Those impacted can I'm sure easily migrate forward files themselves.
 
Plus - regarding infrastructure - standing up the VCS server is same as svn - so I do not foresee any impacts there.  Actually if they are transitioning - that makes a good case for implementing VCS once that is complete - and using that as the go forward.
 
Farrukh can add more - but seems to me at this point this is low hanging fruit.


Thanks, DW
 
 

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: [oasis-member-discuss] Request for mercurial or git
distributed VCS
From: "Peter F Brown (Pensive)" <Peter@pensive.eu>
Date: Fri, April 09, 2010 3:08 pm
To: Farrukh Najmi <farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com>, "David RR Webber
(XML)" <david@drrw.info>
Cc: "oasis-member-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org"
<oasis-member-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org>





“There is really no good argument I have seen on why one should stick with svn.”

Except for the cost of migration, which could be considerable given that the OASIS IT infrastructure is in the process of a major overhaul. Sometimes the best is the enemy of the good – in the current circumstances, I really do think you would need to explain the specific and measurable advantages over the current system and/or the dangers of staying with same…

Cheers,
Peter
(Speaking as an ordinary OASIS participant and not on behalf of the Board)



From: Farrukh Najmi [mailto:farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com]
Sent: Fri, 09 April 2010 10:46
To: David RR Webber (XML)
Cc: oasis-member-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [oasis-member-discuss] Request for mercurial or git distributed VCS

Hi David,

There are *more* clients on *more* platforms for mercurial that are *better* than *any* clients on *any* platform for svn:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercurial#Related_software

As for tortoisesvn you should check out:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TortoiseHg

There is really no good argument I have seen on why one should stick with svn. Even inertia does not count since mercurial's ConvertExtension can convert from most legacy VCS including svn seamlessly while preserving *all* history of *all* branches.

  http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/ConvertExtension

Try converting to mercurial. IMHO, you will be very glad you did.


On 04/09/2010 01:15 PM, David RR Webber (XML) wrote: 

Farrukh,

 

I must confess svn is my go-to solution - and I cannot live without tortoisesvn client for Windows - using it daily.

 

Is there a similar solution for Mercurial or git VCS?  If there's something better - I'm definitely interested in looking into it!  I'm familiar with some svn limitations.

 

You are indeed correct that it had escaped my attention that OASIS now has svn - and most definitely this is something now as a priority to facilitate specification work - so I will look into this soonest.

 

Thanks, DW

 

 


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [oasis-member-discuss] Request for mercurial or git
distributed VCS
From: Farrukh Najmi <farrukh@wellfleetsoftware.com>
Date: Thu, April 08, 2010 6:35 pm
To: oasis-member-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org

Dear colleagues,

I was pleased to hear recently that OASIS is now offering svn as a
Version Control System (VCS).
This is a good thing and will benefit spec artifact management in a more
open and collaborative manner.
The result will be better specs done faster and with all the
transparency that they deserve.

I have one big followup wish though...

svn was great several years back but today it is quite limiting a choice
now that
distributed VCS such as Mercurial (aka hg) and git (used by the Linux
project) are mature and stable.

The benefits of mercurial or git are huge over svn. Here is a nice
article on mercurial that explains the benefits:

http://hginit.com/index.html

Not many TC projects even know that svn is available yet. So please
could OASIS consider changing to (or providing as an alternative)
mercurial or git VCS. I would be glad to help OASIS staff with any
mercurial related questions offline if that will improve the chances of
getting my wish.

Earlier OASIS granted me my wish to offer JIRA for issue tracking (thank
you!). I hope that I will get lucky again and OASIS will offer mercurial
or git very soon.
Note that I would consider the benefits of mercurial or git over svn to
out-weigh any benefits of tigher integration between JIRA and svn.

OASIS staff please feel free to contact me on or off this list if you
would like to discuss this suggestion in more detail. Thank you for your
consideration.



-- 
Regards,
Farrukh
Web: http://www.wellfleetsoftware.com