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  • 1.  RE: [ubl-tsc] Issue with Certificate of Origin Document

    Posted 01-23-2006 12:33
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    Subject: RE: [ubl-tsc] Issue with Certificate of Origin Document


    Hi Tim,
     
    I seem to be unable to locate a place to put the Shipment date for example on or about date with the qualifier etc. Where can this be placed? Is it in delivery however i can't find a place for the qualifier.
     
    Rgds
    Jernkuan
    From: Tim McGrath [mailto:tmcgrath@portcomm.com.au]
    Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:18 AM
    To: Jern Kuan, Leong
    Cc: ubl-tsc@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: Re: [ubl-tsc] Issue with Certificate of Origin Document



    Jern Kuan, Leong wrote:
    Hi Tim
     
    Great, i was suspecting that, so it should be validationDateTime?
    I meant that SignatureDateTime is no longer found in endorsement. But explained by you, it has been placed in <signature><validationDateTime>

    Correct
    Lastly, where can i locate the price of the items? It used to be under <Item><BasePrice><PriceAmount>

    BasePrice is not associated with LineItem not Item.  This is becasue the price of an item can vary depending on the order (quantity,place, time, etc)

    Sometime we would need the items in COO to have some monetary values in there.
     
    Any samples from Peter on the dsig?
    Not as far as I know. But he is working on sample instances for all UBL 2.0 documents so I expect it is a part of that.  Perhaps you should make a reuqets to the entire UBL TC just to remind them.

    I think that under the proposed model the signatures are just another type of attachment so it should be easy to create an example.
     
    Rgds
    Jernkuan
    From: Tim McGrath [mailto:tmcgrath@portcomm.com.au]
    Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:55 PM
    To: Jern Kuan, Leong
    Cc: ubl-tsc@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: Re: [ubl-tsc] Issue with Certificate of Origin Document

    SignatureDateTime is now part of the Signature.

    We agreed to removde Endorsement from the CertificateOfOriginApplication back in November and transferred them to the COO itself.

    We have not specified a code set that must be used but I would suggest we recommend UN/ECE Recommendation No 19.
    - which i cannot find on the UN/ECE site but it conatins things like "Sea","Air",'Rail", etc..

    Similarly for Transport Means I would suggest we recommend UN/ECE Recommendation No 28, as given in....
    http://www.unece.org/trade/untdid/d05a/tred/tred8179.htm


    Jern Kuan, Leong wrote:
    Hi Tim,
     
    Thanxs for the reply.
    I also noticed that the SignatureDateTime has been removed from CertificateOfOriginApplication and Endorsement has been removed.
     
    This information is required to indicate when was the document been submitted and signed.
     
    Next.
    Is there any place i can get the code list? e.g. TransportModeCode etc.
     
    Rgds and thanxs
    Jernkuan
    From: Tim McGrath [mailto:tmcgrath@portcomm.com.au]
    Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:20 PM
    To: Jern Kuan, Leong
    Cc: ubl-tsc@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: Re: [ubl-tsc] Issue with Certificate of Origin Document

    I confess that these were added becasue the TC felt all document roots needed to contain the "from" and "to" parties.  I disagree but they wanted them in for the public review.

    I suggest you raise it as an issue.

    Jern Kuan, Leong wrote:
    Hi TC
     
    My mistake, information for importer and exporter can already be found in <COA><Shipment><Consignment><Exporter or Importer>
     
    However any reasons why are these information duplicated at the root CO document?
     
    Rgds and thanxs
    Jernkuan
    From: Jern Kuan, Leong [mailto:jernkuan@crimsonlogic.com]
    Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:41 AM
    To: ubl-tsc@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [ubl-tsc] Issue with Certificate of Origin Document

    Hi TSC
     
    After some quick review,
    Issues are as logged in here
     
     
    Submitted by: Leong Jern-Kuan on January 18, 2006, 8:25 pm
     

    Critical : Transport Library. Certificate of Origin Document type. 1. ExporterParty and ImporterParty are at the wrong ABIE namly Certificate of Origin. 2. EndorserParty is already at Certificate of Origin Application ASBIE

    Recommendation:1. ExporterParty and ImporterParty should be at the Certificate of Origin Application ASBIE. 2. Removal of EndorserParty at Certificate of Origin.

     
    Rgds
    Jernkuan

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    -- 
    regards
    tim mcgrath
    phone: +618 93352228  
    postal: po box 1289   fremantle    western australia 6160
    
    DOCUMENT ENGINEERING: Analyzing and Designing Documents for Business Informatics and Web Services
    http://www.docengineering.com/

    -- 
    regards
    tim mcgrath
    phone: +618 93352228  
    postal: po box 1289   fremantle    western australia 6160
    
    DOCUMENT ENGINEERING: Analyzing and Designing Documents for Business Informatics and Web Services
    http://www.docengineering.com/