OASIS XML Localisation Interchange File Format (XLIFF) TC

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  • 1.  Change Track Module

    Posted 01-18-2013 22:52
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    Hi Shirley and ALL,   In the TC call on 11/21 it was decided that the following items   Change Tracking / Version Control (Shirley) Change track module (Ryan)   Would be merged into 1. Please take a look at the attached Change Track Module proposal and provide comments.   Thanks, Ryan   Attachment: Change Track Module.pdf Description: Change Track Module.pdf

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  • 2.  RE: Change Track Module

    Posted 01-30-2013 19:30
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    Hi All, I haven’t seen any feedback on the draft for Change Track Module. Please send them to the list so that I can incorporate any changes before working on the DocBook files and publishing it to the spec.   Thanks, Ryan     From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Ryan King Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 2:50 PM To: Shirley Coady (scoady@multicorpora.com); xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] Change Track Module   Hi Shirley and ALL,   In the TC call on 11/21 it was decided that the following items   Change Tracking / Version Control (Shirley) Change track module (Ryan)   Would be merged into 1. Please take a look at the attached Change Track Module proposal and provide comments.   Thanks, Ryan   Attachment: Change Track Module.pdf Description: Change Track Module.pdf

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    Change Track Module.pdf   285 KB 1 version


  • 3.  RE: Change Track Module

    Posted 02-28-2013 22:51
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    Here is the latest draft of the Change Track module that takes feedback into account from Fredrik and Joachim to incorporate checksum handling and being able to roll-back a revision made outside of an XLIFF-aware tool. Fredrik was kind enough to share implementation details with me so I could understand the use case better. I will be creating docBook files and adding this version to the spec in the next couple of days.   Thanks, Ryan   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Ryan King Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:28 AM To: Shirley Coady (scoady@multicorpora.com); xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] RE: Change Track Module   Hi All, I haven’t seen any feedback on the draft for Change Track Module. Please send them to the list so that I can incorporate any changes before working on the DocBook files and publishing it to the spec.   Thanks, Ryan     From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Ryan King Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 2:50 PM To: Shirley Coady ( scoady@multicorpora.com ); xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] Change Track Module   Hi Shirley and ALL,   In the TC call on 11/21 it was decided that the following items   Change Tracking / Version Control (Shirley) Change track module (Ryan)   Would be merged into 1. Please take a look at the attached Change Track Module proposal and provide comments.   Thanks, Ryan   Attachment: Change Track Module.pdf Description: Change Track Module.pdf

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  • 4.  RE: [xliff] RE: Change Track Module

    Posted 02-28-2013 23:08
    Hi Ryan,   One note: Any reason to use the CRC32 value for checksum? Wouldn’t MD5 or SHA-1 or other more reliable algorithm be better? I’ve read that CRC32 is ok for error checking but not necessarily perfect for checking integrity. or we think CRC32 is good enough?   cheers, -yves   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Ryan King Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 3:48 PM To: Ryan King; Shirley Coady (scoady@multicorpora.com); xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Cc: Kevin O'Donnell; Uwe Stahlschmidt; Alan Michael Subject: [xliff] RE: Change Track Module   Here is the latest draft of the Change Track module that takes feedback into account from Fredrik and Joachim to incorporate checksum handling and being able to roll-back a revision made outside of an XLIFF-aware tool. Fredrik was kind enough to share implementation details with me so I could understand the use case better. I will be creating docBook files and adding this version to the spec in the next couple of days.   Thanks, Ryan   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Ryan King Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:28 AM To: Shirley Coady ( scoady@multicorpora.com ); xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] RE: Change Track Module   Hi All, I haven’t seen any feedback on the draft for Change Track Module. Please send them to the list so that I can incorporate any changes before working on the DocBook files and publishing it to the spec.   Thanks, Ryan     From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Ryan King Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 2:50 PM To: Shirley Coady ( scoady@multicorpora.com ); xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] Change Track Module   Hi Shirley and ALL,   In the TC call on 11/21 it was decided that the following items   Change Tracking / Version Control (Shirley) Change track module (Ryan)   Would be merged into 1. Please take a look at the attached Change Track Module proposal and provide comments.   Thanks, Ryan  


  • 5.  RE: [xliff] RE: Change Track Module

    Posted 03-01-2013 18:13




    Thanks Yves, I’ll let Fredrik or Joachim answer this one as this was a request from their side. They may have more details as to why they chose CRC32 in particular.
     
    Ryan
     


    From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org]
    On Behalf Of Yves Savourel
    Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 3:07 PM
    To: Ryan King; 'Shirley Coady'; xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
    Cc: Kevin O'Donnell; Uwe Stahlschmidt; Alan Michael
    Subject: RE: [xliff] RE: Change Track Module


     
    Hi Ryan,
     
    One note: Any reason to use the CRC32 value for checksum?
    Wouldn’t MD5 or SHA-1 or other more reliable algorithm be better? I’ve read that CRC32 is ok for error checking but not necessarily perfect for checking integrity. or
    we think CRC32 is good enough?
     
    cheers,
    -yves
     


    From:
    xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Ryan King
    Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 3:48 PM
    To: Ryan King; Shirley Coady ( scoady@multicorpora.com );
    xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
    Cc: Kevin O'Donnell; Uwe Stahlschmidt; Alan Michael
    Subject: [xliff] RE: Change Track Module


     
    Here is the latest draft of the Change Track module that takes feedback into account from Fredrik and Joachim to incorporate checksum handling and being able
    to roll-back a revision made outside of an XLIFF-aware tool. Fredrik was kind enough to share implementation details with me so I could understand the use case better. I will be creating docBook files and adding this version to the spec in the next couple
    of days.
     
    Thanks,
    Ryan

     


    From:
    xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Ryan King
    Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:28 AM
    To: Shirley Coady ( scoady@multicorpora.com );
    xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [xliff] RE: Change Track Module


     
    Hi All, I haven’t seen any feedback on the draft for Change Track Module. Please send them to the list so that I can incorporate any changes before working on the DocBook files
    and publishing it to the spec.
     
    Thanks,
    Ryan
     
     


    From:
    xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Ryan King
    Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 2:50 PM
    To: Shirley Coady ( scoady@multicorpora.com );
    xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [xliff] Change Track Module


     
    Hi Shirley and ALL,
     
    In the TC call on 11/21 it was decided that the following items
     
    Change Tracking / Version Control (Shirley)
    Change track module (Ryan)
     
    Would be merged into 1. Please take a look at the attached Change Track Module proposal and provide comments.
     
    Thanks,
    Ryan


     








  • 6.  RE: [xliff] RE: Change Track Module

    Posted 03-05-2013 16:46




    Hello,
     
    the main reason I would propose to use a CRC over a cryptographic hash when you would want to check for corruption only is that a CRC can be computed
    a lot faster, and typically needs a lot less storage space. Of course the collision risk is higher (by design) than with a cryptographic hash, but we do not intend to use the checksum as a unique ID. And because we do not take any other provisions to guarantee
    integrity (by using certificates and signatures) there is not much necessity to make it difficult or impossible to break integrity.
     
    Regards,
    Joachim
     


    From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org]
    On Behalf Of Ryan King
    Sent: Freitag, 1. März 2013 19:10
    To: Yves Savourel; 'Shirley Coady'; xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
    Cc: Kevin O'Donnell; Uwe Stahlschmidt; Alan Michael
    Subject: RE: [xliff] RE: Change Track Module


     
    Thanks Yves, I’ll let Fredrik or Joachim answer this one as this was a request from their side. They may have more details as to why they chose
    CRC32 in particular.
     
    Ryan
     


    From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org]
    On Behalf Of Yves Savourel
    Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 3:07 PM
    To: Ryan King; 'Shirley Coady'; xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
    Cc: Kevin O'Donnell; Uwe Stahlschmidt; Alan Michael
    Subject: RE: [xliff] RE: Change Track Module


     
    Hi Ryan,
     
    One note: Any reason to use the CRC32 value for checksum?
    Wouldn’t MD5 or SHA-1 or other more reliable algorithm be better? I’ve read that CRC32 is ok for error checking but not necessarily perfect for checking
    integrity. or we think CRC32 is good enough?
     
    cheers,
    -yves
     


    From:
    xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Ryan King
    Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 3:48 PM
    To: Ryan King; Shirley Coady ( scoady@multicorpora.com );
    xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
    Cc: Kevin O'Donnell; Uwe Stahlschmidt; Alan Michael
    Subject: [xliff] RE: Change Track Module


     
    Here is the latest draft of the Change Track module that takes feedback into account from Fredrik and Joachim to incorporate checksum handling
    and being able to roll-back a revision made outside of an XLIFF-aware tool. Fredrik was kind enough to share implementation details with me so I could understand the use case better. I will be creating docBook files and adding this version to the spec in the
    next couple of days.
     
    Thanks,
    Ryan

     


    From:
    xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Ryan King
    Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:28 AM
    To: Shirley Coady ( scoady@multicorpora.com );
    xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [xliff] RE: Change Track Module


     
    Hi All, I haven’t seen any feedback on the draft for Change Track Module. Please send them to the list so that I can incorporate any changes before working on the
    DocBook files and publishing it to the spec.
     
    Thanks,
    Ryan
     
     


    From:
    xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Ryan King
    Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 2:50 PM
    To: Shirley Coady ( scoady@multicorpora.com );
    xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [xliff] Change Track Module


     
    Hi Shirley and ALL,
     
    In the TC call on 11/21 it was decided that the following items
     
    Change Tracking / Version Control (Shirley)
    Change track module (Ryan)
     
    Would be merged into 1. Please take a look at the attached Change Track Module proposal and provide comments.
     
    Thanks,
    Ryan


     








  • 7.  RE: [xliff] RE: Change Track Module

    Posted 03-05-2013 17:02
    Hi Joachim,   Ok. Thanks for explaining. I just wanted to understand the rationale behind the choice.   -yves     From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Schurig, Joachim Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 9:46 AM To: Ryan King; Yves Savourel; 'Shirley Coady'; xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Cc: Kevin O'Donnell; Uwe Stahlschmidt; Alan Michael Subject: RE: [xliff] RE: Change Track Module   Hello,   the main reason I would propose to use a CRC over a cryptographic hash when you would want to check for corruption only is that a CRC can be computed a lot faster, and typically needs a lot less storage space. Of course the collision risk is higher (by design) than with a cryptographic hash, but we do not intend to use the checksum as a unique ID. And because we do not take any other provisions to guarantee integrity (by using certificates and signatures) there is not much necessity to make it difficult or impossible to break integrity.   Regards, Joachim   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Ryan King Sent: Freitag, 1. März 2013 19:10 To: Yves Savourel; 'Shirley Coady'; xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Cc: Kevin O'Donnell; Uwe Stahlschmidt; Alan Michael Subject: RE: [xliff] RE: Change Track Module   Thanks Yves, I’ll let Fredrik or Joachim answer this one as this was a request from their side. They may have more details as to why they chose CRC32 in particular.   Ryan   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Yves Savourel Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 3:07 PM To: Ryan King; 'Shirley Coady'; xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Cc: Kevin O'Donnell; Uwe Stahlschmidt; Alan Michael Subject: RE: [xliff] RE: Change Track Module   Hi Ryan,   One note: Any reason to use the CRC32 value for checksum? Wouldn’t MD5 or SHA-1 or other more reliable algorithm be better? I’ve read that CRC32 is ok for error checking but not necessarily perfect for checking integrity. or we think CRC32 is good enough?   cheers, -yves   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Ryan King Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 3:48 PM To: Ryan King; Shirley Coady ( scoady@multicorpora.com ); xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Cc: Kevin O'Donnell; Uwe Stahlschmidt; Alan Michael Subject: [xliff] RE: Change Track Module   Here is the latest draft of the Change Track module that takes feedback into account from Fredrik and Joachim to incorporate checksum handling and being able to roll-back a revision made outside of an XLIFF-aware tool. Fredrik was kind enough to share implementation details with me so I could understand the use case better. I will be creating docBook files and adding this version to the spec in the next couple of days.   Thanks, Ryan   From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Ryan King Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:28 AM To: Shirley Coady ( scoady@multicorpora.com ); xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] RE: Change Track Module   Hi All, I haven’t seen any feedback on the draft for Change Track Module. Please send them to the list so that I can incorporate any changes before working on the DocBook files and publishing it to the spec.   Thanks, Ryan     From: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xliff@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Ryan King Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 2:50 PM To: Shirley Coady ( scoady@multicorpora.com ); xliff@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: [xliff] Change Track Module   Hi Shirley and ALL,   In the TC call on 11/21 it was decided that the following items   Change Tracking / Version Control (Shirley) Change track module (Ryan)   Would be merged into 1. Please take a look at the attached Change Track Module proposal and provide comments.   Thanks, Ryan