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Subject: RE: [xliff] Final Consolidated Restype Attributes List




From: "Lieske, Christian" <christian.lieske@sap.com>
To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 14:54:08 +0100









Hi 
all,
 
It 
might make sense to say a word again about my original motivation for including 
both
XUL- 
and XSD-related items:
 
I was 
assuming that we where looking for a kind of 'superset' of items to which 
items from specific
sets 
(e.g. those belonging to Windows RC files) could be mapped. My 
specific line of thought was 
to 
create mapping tables which reveal how the individual sets would be 
mapped to the superset. This
approach appealed to me since on the 
one hand the superset would give us a comprehensive 
layer of 
abstraction, and the mapping tables would 
leave no doubt about what representations for example 
of 
Windows RC items have to look like in XLIFF. 
 
The 
only alternative to this 'superset and mandatory mapping' approach to me 
would be the consequent
use of 
the namespace mechanism (which for example might render Windows RC specific 
information 
in 
XLIFF as 'item="winRC:X"'). Of course this alternative approach could 
boil down to a completely different approach 
for 
tool suppliers. Possibly, they would no longer work on rendering XLIFF, 
but would look into XLIFF files, 
see 
that they are really 'wrappers' for say Windows RC files, and then would use 
Windows RC
related functionality for further 
processing.
 
Best,
Christian
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Levins 
[mailto:mark_levins@ie.ibm.com]
Sent: Donnerstag, 27. M�rz 2003 
14:06
To: Tony Jewtushenko <Tony.Jewtushenko
Cc: 
xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [xliff] Final Consolidated 
Restype Attributes List


Hi 
Tony,

After having another look 
through this list I feel I have to raise a concern I have towards including all 
of the XUL elements and the granularity it provides for XUL, which we are not 
necessarily be providing for other formats (I would not be too kean on reading 
the list if we went down that road).
Basically, including all of the XUL elements includes too many spurious 
values that may never be used.

An 
example of my concern is evident in the following list of XUL elements 

        tree
        treecell
        treecol
        treecols
        treeitem
        treerow
        treechildren
Here the actual resource type is a tree control 
described by the first element, <tree>. All of the rest of these elements 
then describe aspects of the tree control and can only exist as child elements 
of <tree> in XUL. Extending on this, <treecols> in XUL is just a 
placeholder for containing multiple <treecol> elements and therefore 
provides no specific useful information in XLIFF and I cannot see how it could 
ever be used.

IMHO, I see the 
following options:
1. Prune the list of 
XUL elements to only include root 'restypes', such as <tree> in the above 
example and further reduce the list through commonality with the other non-XUL 
values.
2. Add one 'XUL' restype and 
indicate that the actual XUL type be specified through an additional namespaced 
attribute via an attribute extension point
3. Use only XUL elements
4. Leave 
the extensive list as is (ouch!)

Regards,

Mark 
Levins 

  

  

    
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Tony Jewtushenko 
      <Tony.Jewtushenko@oracle.com> 
      
26/03/2003 20:24 
    

      

        

        

          

            
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All:

Please review the attached 
HTML and Excel spreadsheet for legibility,
accuracy and 
completeness.

Please note that I've 
assigned as owner the original submittor,  or
subsequent resubmittor, 
 or in some cases my best guess as to who may
own the item.  I may 
not have gotten the owners quite right,  so it's up
to you to review to 
make sure any items important to you are represented
correctly.  Also, 
 please forgive me if I've omitted mention of your
name as submitter - I 
will correct any mistakes once they're reported to
me.  Anyone is free 
to submit their suggestions - responses are not
limited to assigned 
owners.

I'd prefer if you return to me the 
XLS file rather than HTML file.
Please indicate if the item should have 
status of
Approved,Deprecated,Rejected. 
 Please fill in a description when one is
lacking, or feel free to edit 
the existing description.  And finally,
please fill in your name in next to the item you're reviewing and 
feel
free to add any comments in the appropriate 
column.

The end of day Friday (per any 
timezone you like) is the cutoff for
returning to me your signed off lists. 
 After this deadline,  any items
not explicitly approved will be 
assumed to be rejected.

Regards,
Tony


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Tony 
Jewtushenko                   
            
 mailto:tony.jewtushenko@oracle.com
Sr. Tools Program Manager   
                    
 direct tel: +353.1.8039080
Product Management - Tools Technology 
Team
Oracle Corporation, Ireland



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