OASIS eXtensible Access Control Markup Language (XACML) TC

All, The IPR section of the XACML TC page [1] states that there are IBM patents pending that may be applicable to XACML implementations. Have there been any new developments in this area since that statement was issued in 2002? Thanks, Ray [1] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/xacml/ipr.php

Ray, On July 10, 2007, IBM issued an "Interoperability Specifications Pledge" to encourage broad adoption of certain interoperability specifications. The core of the pledge is that IBM will not assert any patent claims against others for implementing these specifications, and that this pledge is "irrevocable", subject to a mutuality clause (that the other party will not assert claims against IBM or any third party for implementations of these specifications). XACML versions 1.0, 1.1, and 2.0, and several XACML profiles are included in the list of covered specifications, which has been updated a couple of times since the original pledge. I believe that IBM intends to continue to update the list of interoperability specifications covered under this pledge as related specifications and follow-on versions of listed specifications are developed. Details of the pledge can be found at http://www-03.ibm.com/linux/ossstds/ispinfo.html . Please note that I am not an attorney and the paragraph above is my attempt to state IBM's Interoperability Specifications Pledge in layman's terms. Anyone intending to produce a software product or other intellectual property that may rely on this pledge is encouraged to consult with their own Intellectual Property counsel. Best Regards, Richard Franck Certified IT Architect, IBM Global Business Services e-mail: Richard_Franck@us.ibm.com mobile phone: 1-919-302-3880 ---09/21/2011 04:04:21 AM---All, The IPR section of the XACML TC page [1] states that there are IBM patents pending that may be From: <remon.sinnema@emc.com> To: <xacml@lists.oasis-open.org> Date: 09/21/2011 04:04 AM Subject: [xacml] IBM Patents Sent by: <xacml@lists.oasis-open.org> All, The IPR section of the XACML TC page [1] states that there are IBM patents pending that may be applicable to XACML implementations. Have there been any new developments in this area since that statement was issued in 2002? Thanks, Ray [1] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/xacml/ipr.php --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xacml-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: xacml-help@lists.oasis-open.org

Richard, Thanks for clarifying. Thanks, Ray From: xacml@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:xacml@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Richard Franck Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 4:33 PM To: Sinnema, Remon; xacml@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [xacml] IBM Patents Ray, On July 10, 2007, IBM issued an "Interoperability Specifications Pledge" to encourage broad adoption of certain interoperability specifications. The core of the pledge is that IBM will not assert any patent claims against others for implementing these specifications, and that this pledge is "irrevocable", subject to a mutuality clause (that the other party will not assert claims against IBM or any third party for implementations of these specifications). XACML versions 1.0, 1.1, and 2.0, and several XACML profiles are included in the list of covered specifications, which has been updated a couple of times since the original pledge. I believe that IBM intends to continue to update the list of interoperability specifications covered under this pledge as related specifications and follow-on versions of listed specifications are developed. Details of the pledge can be found at http://www-03.ibm.com/linux/ossstds/ispinfo.html . Please note that I am not an attorney and the paragraph above is my attempt to state IBM's Interoperability Specifications Pledge in layman's terms. Anyone intending to produce a software product or other intellectual property that may rely on this pledge is encouraged to consult with their own Intellectual Property counsel. Best Regards, Richard Franck Certified IT Architect, IBM Global Business Services e-mail: Richard_Franck@us.ibm.com mobile phone: 1-919-302-3880 ---09/21/2011 04:04:21 AM---All, The IPR section of the XACML TC page [1] states that there are IBM patents pending that may be From: <remon.sinnema@emc.com> To: <xacml@lists.oasis-open.org> Date: 09/21/2011 04:04 AM Subject: [xacml] IBM Patents Sent by: <xacml@lists.oasis-open.org> ________________________________________ All, The IPR section of the XACML TC page [1] states that there are IBM patents pending that may be applicable to XACML implementations. Have there been any new developments in this area since that statement was issued in 2002? Thanks, Ray [1] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/xacml/ipr.php --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xacml-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: xacml-help@lists.oasis-open.org

Richard,   Would it be possible for you to find out if IBM can provide additional, updated information, along the lines of your message to be posted on the XACML site? OASIS policy is to never remove a statement once it has been posted, but it can be added to.   Hal
Original Message----- From: Richard Franck [mailto:Richard_Franck@us.ibm.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 10:33 AM To: remon.sinnema@emc.com; xacml@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [xacml] IBM Patents Ray, On July 10, 2007, IBM issued an Interoperability Specifications Pledge to encourage broad adoption of certain interoperability specifications. The core of the pledge is that IBM will not assert any patent claims against others for implementing these specifications, and that this pledge is irrevocable , subject to a mutuality clause (that the other party will not assert claims against IBM or any third party for implementations of these specifications). XACML versions 1.0, 1.1, and 2.0, and several XACML profiles are included in the list of covered specifications, which has been updated a couple of times since the original pledge. I believe that IBM intends to continue to update the list of interoperability specifications covered under this pledge as related specifications and follow-on versions of listed specifications are developed. Details of the pledge can be found at http://www-03.ibm.com/linux/ossstds/ispinfo.html . Please note that I am not an attorney and the paragraph above is my attempt to state IBM's Interoperability Specifications Pledge in layman's terms. Anyone intending to produce a software product or other intellectual property that may rely on this pledge is encouraged to consult with their own Intellectual Property counsel. Best Regards, Richard Franck Certified IT Architect, IBM Global Business Services e-mail: Richard_Franck@us.ibm.com mobile phone: 1-919-302-3880 ---09/21/2011 04:04:21 AM---All, The IPR section of the XACML TC page [1] states that there are IBM patents pending that may be From: <remon.sinnema@emc.com> To: <xacml@lists.oasis-open.org> Date: 09/21/2011 04:04 AM Subject: [xacml] IBM Patents Sent by: <xacml@lists.oasis-open.org> All, The IPR section of the XACML TC page [1] states that there are IBM patents pending that may be applicable to XACML implementations. Have there been any new developments in this area since that statement was issued in 2002? Thanks, Ray [1] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/xacml/ipr.php --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xacml-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: xacml-help@lists.oasis-open.org

See http://markmail.org/message/fhuzbq4hbzee6o5k   IBM did follow up with OASIS to close this back in 2005 but it seems that OASIS staff did not do anything.   From: xacml@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:xacml@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Hal Lockhart Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:48 PM To: Richard Franck Cc: remon.sinnema@emc.com; xacml@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: [xacml] IBM Patents   Richard,   Would it be possible for you to find out if IBM can provide additional, updated information, along the lines of your message to be posted on the XACML site? OASIS policy is to never remove a statement once it has been posted, but it can be added to.   Hal
Original Message----- From: Richard Franck [mailto:Richard_Franck@us.ibm.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 10:33 AM To: remon.sinnema@emc.com ; xacml@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [xacml] IBM Patents Ray, On July 10, 2007, IBM issued an "Interoperability Specifications Pledge" to encourage broad adoption of certain interoperability specifications. The core of the pledge is that IBM will not assert any patent claims against others for implementing these specifications, and that this pledge is "irrevocable", subject to a mutuality clause (that the other party will not assert claims against IBM or any third party for implementations of these specifications). XACML versions 1.0, 1.1, and 2.0, and several XACML profiles are included in the list of covered specifications, which has been updated a couple of times since the original pledge. I believe that IBM intends to continue to update the list of interoperability specifications covered under this pledge as related specifications and follow-on versions of listed specifications are developed. Details of the pledge can be found at http://www-03.ibm.com/linux/ossstds/ispinfo.html . Please note that I am not an attorney and the paragraph above is my attempt to state IBM's Interoperability Specifications Pledge in layman's terms. Anyone intending to produce a software product or other intellectual property that may rely on this pledge is encouraged to consult with their own Intellectual Property counsel. Best Regards, Richard Franck Certified IT Architect, IBM Global Business Services e-mail: Richard_Franck@us.ibm.com mobile phone: 1-919-302-3880 ---09/21/2011 04:04:21 AM---All, The IPR section of the XACML TC page [1] states that there are IBM patents pending that may be From: < remon.sinnema@emc.com > To: < xacml@lists.oasis-open.org > Date: 09/21/2011 04:04 AM Subject: [xacml] IBM Patents Sent by: < xacml@lists.oasis-open.org > All, The IPR section of the XACML TC page [1] states that there are IBM patents pending that may be applicable to XACML implementations. Have there been any new developments in this area since that statement was issued in 2002? Thanks, Ray [1] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/xacml/ipr.php --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xacml-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: xacml-help@lists.oasis-open.org

I guess I will have to track this down. I did have a recollection of the disclosures being amended. I was a little surprised the 2002 text had not been added to.   Can you tell me who on the IBM side was involved? I suspect no one currently at OASIS may know anything about it.   Hal
Original Message----- From: Anthony Nadalin [mailto:tonynad@microsoft.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 6:37 PM To: Hal Lockhart; Richard Franck Cc: remon.sinnema@emc.com; xacml@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: [xacml] IBM Patents See http://markmail.org/message/fhuzbq4hbzee6o5k   IBM did follow up with OASIS to close this back in 2005 but it seems that OASIS staff did not do anything.   From: xacml@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:xacml@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Hal Lockhart Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:48 PM To: Richard Franck Cc: remon.sinnema@emc.com; xacml@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: [xacml] IBM Patents   Richard,   Would it be possible for you to find out if IBM can provide additional, updated information, along the lines of your message to be posted on the XACML site? OASIS policy is to never remove a statement once it has been posted, but it can be added to.   Hal -----Original Message----- From: Richard Franck [mailto:Richard_Franck@us.ibm.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 10:33 AM To: remon.sinnema@emc.com ; xacml@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [xacml] IBM Patents Ray, On July 10, 2007, IBM issued an Interoperability Specifications Pledge to encourage broad adoption of certain interoperability specifications. The core of the pledge is that IBM will not assert any patent claims against others for implementing these specifications, and that this pledge is irrevocable , subject to a mutuality clause (that the other party will not assert claims against IBM or any third party for implementations of these specifications). XACML versions 1.0, 1.1, and 2.0, and several XACML profiles are included in the list of covered specifications, which has been updated a couple of times since the original pledge. I believe that IBM intends to continue to update the list of interoperability specifications covered under this pledge as related specifications and follow-on versions of listed specifications are developed. Details of the pledge can be found at http://www-03.ibm.com/linux/ossstds/ispinfo.html . Please note that I am not an attorney and the paragraph above is my attempt to state IBM's Interoperability Specifications Pledge in layman's terms. Anyone intending to produce a software product or other intellectual property that may rely on this pledge is encouraged to consult with their own Intellectual Property counsel. Best Regards, Richard Franck Certified IT Architect, IBM Global Business Services e-mail: Richard_Franck@us.ibm.com mobile phone: 1-919-302-3880 ---09/21/2011 04:04:21 AM---All, The IPR section of the XACML TC page [1] states that there are IBM patents pending that may be From: < remon.sinnema@emc.com > To: < xacml@lists.oasis-open.org > Date: 09/21/2011 04:04 AM Subject: [xacml] IBM Patents Sent by: < xacml@lists.oasis-open.org > All, The IPR section of the XACML TC page [1] states that there are IBM patents pending that may be applicable to XACML implementations. Have there been any new developments in this area since that statement was issued in 2002? Thanks, Ray [1] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/xacml/ipr.php --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xacml-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: xacml-help@lists.oasis-open.org

I don’t know of anyone that is left at IBM that participated in this, best bet is Kelvin.   From: Hal Lockhart [mailto:hal.lockhart@oracle.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 7:45 PM To: Anthony Nadalin Cc: remon.sinnema@emc.com; xacml@lists.oasis-open.org; Richard Franck Subject: RE: [xacml] IBM Patents   I guess I will have to track this down. I did have a recollection of the disclosures being amended. I was a little surprised the 2002 text had not been added to.   Can you tell me who on the IBM side was involved? I suspect no one currently at OASIS may know anything about it.   Hal
Original Message----- From: Anthony Nadalin [mailto:tonynad@microsoft.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 6:37 PM To: Hal Lockhart; Richard Franck Cc: remon.sinnema@emc.com ; xacml@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: [xacml] IBM Patents See http://markmail.org/message/fhuzbq4hbzee6o5k   IBM did follow up with OASIS to close this back in 2005 but it seems that OASIS staff did not do anything.   From: xacml@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:xacml@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Hal Lockhart Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:48 PM To: Richard Franck Cc: remon.sinnema@emc.com ; xacml@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: [xacml] IBM Patents   Richard,   Would it be possible for you to find out if IBM can provide additional, updated information, along the lines of your message to be posted on the XACML site? OASIS policy is to never remove a statement once it has been posted, but it can be added to.   Hal
Original Message----- From: Richard Franck [mailto:Richard_Franck@us.ibm.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 10:33 AM To: remon.sinnema@emc.com ; xacml@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [xacml] IBM Patents Ray, On July 10, 2007, IBM issued an "Interoperability Specifications Pledge" to encourage broad adoption of certain interoperability specifications. The core of the pledge is that IBM will not assert any patent claims against others for implementing these specifications, and that this pledge is "irrevocable", subject to a mutuality clause (that the other party will not assert claims against IBM or any third party for implementations of these specifications). XACML versions 1.0, 1.1, and 2.0, and several XACML profiles are included in the list of covered specifications, which has been updated a couple of times since the original pledge. I believe that IBM intends to continue to update the list of interoperability specifications covered under this pledge as related specifications and follow-on versions of listed specifications are developed. Details of the pledge can be found at http://www-03.ibm.com/linux/ossstds/ispinfo.html . Please note that I am not an attorney and the paragraph above is my attempt to state IBM's Interoperability Specifications Pledge in layman's terms. Anyone intending to produce a software product or other intellectual property that may rely on this pledge is encouraged to consult with their own Intellectual Property counsel. Best Regards, Richard Franck Certified IT Architect, IBM Global Business Services e-mail: Richard_Franck@us.ibm.com mobile phone: 1-919-302-3880 ---09/21/2011 04:04:21 AM---All, The IPR section of the XACML TC page [1] states that there are IBM patents pending that may be From: < remon.sinnema@emc.com > To: < xacml@lists.oasis-open.org > Date: 09/21/2011 04:04 AM Subject: [xacml] IBM Patents Sent by: < xacml@lists.oasis-open.org > All, The IPR section of the XACML TC page [1] states that there are IBM patents pending that may be applicable to XACML implementations. Have there been any new developments in this area since that statement was issued in 2002? Thanks, Ray [1] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/xacml/ipr.php --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xacml-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: xacml-help@lists.oasis-open.org

I have alerted Jamie – thanks for bringing to our attention. Best, Dee   Dee Schur, Senior Manager - Standards Advocate OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society http://www.oasis-open.org +1.781.425.5073 x211 International Cloud Symposium 2011 http://events.oasis-open.org/home/cloud/2011 Follow OASIS on: LinkedIn: http://linkd.in/OASISopen Twitter: http://twitter.com/OASISopen Facebook: http://facebook.com/oasis.open From: xacml@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:xacml@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Anthony Nadalin Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:15 AM To: Hal Lockhart Cc: remon.sinnema@emc.com; xacml@lists.oasis-open.org; Richard Franck Subject: RE: [xacml] IBM Patents   I don’t know of anyone that is left at IBM that participated in this, best bet is Kelvin.   From: Hal Lockhart [mailto:hal.lockhart@oracle.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 7:45 PM To: Anthony Nadalin Cc: remon.sinnema@emc.com; xacml@lists.oasis-open.org; Richard Franck Subject: RE: [xacml] IBM Patents   I guess I will have to track this down. I did have a recollection of the disclosures being amended. I was a little surprised the 2002 text had not been added to.   Can you tell me who on the IBM side was involved? I suspect no one currently at OASIS may know anything about it.   Hal
Original Message----- From: Anthony Nadalin [mailto:tonynad@microsoft.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 6:37 PM To: Hal Lockhart; Richard Franck Cc: remon.sinnema@emc.com ; xacml@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: [xacml] IBM Patents See http://markmail.org/message/fhuzbq4hbzee6o5k   IBM did follow up with OASIS to close this back in 2005 but it seems that OASIS staff did not do anything.   From: xacml@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:xacml@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Hal Lockhart Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:48 PM To: Richard Franck Cc: remon.sinnema@emc.com ; xacml@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: [xacml] IBM Patents   Richard,   Would it be possible for you to find out if IBM can provide additional, updated information, along the lines of your message to be posted on the XACML site? OASIS policy is to never remove a statement once it has been posted, but it can be added to.   Hal
Original Message----- From: Richard Franck [mailto:Richard_Franck@us.ibm.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 10:33 AM To: remon.sinnema@emc.com ; xacml@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [xacml] IBM Patents Ray, On July 10, 2007, IBM issued an "Interoperability Specifications Pledge" to encourage broad adoption of certain interoperability specifications. The core of the pledge is that IBM will not assert any patent claims against others for implementing these specifications, and that this pledge is "irrevocable", subject to a mutuality clause (that the other party will not assert claims against IBM or any third party for implementations of these specifications). XACML versions 1.0, 1.1, and 2.0, and several XACML profiles are included in the list of covered specifications, which has been updated a couple of times since the original pledge. I believe that IBM intends to continue to update the list of interoperability specifications covered under this pledge as related specifications and follow-on versions of listed specifications are developed. Details of the pledge can be found at http://www-03.ibm.com/linux/ossstds/ispinfo.html . Please note that I am not an attorney and the paragraph above is my attempt to state IBM's Interoperability Specifications Pledge in layman's terms. Anyone intending to produce a software product or other intellectual property that may rely on this pledge is encouraged to consult with their own Intellectual Property counsel. Best Regards, Richard Franck Certified IT Architect, IBM Global Business Services e-mail: Richard_Franck@us.ibm.com mobile phone: 1-919-302-3880 ---09/21/2011 04:04:21 AM---All, The IPR section of the XACML TC page [1] states that there are IBM patents pending that may be From: < remon.sinnema@emc.com > To: < xacml@lists.oasis-open.org > Date: 09/21/2011 04:04 AM Subject: [xacml] IBM Patents Sent by: < xacml@lists.oasis-open.org > All, The IPR section of the XACML TC page [1] states that there are IBM patents pending that may be applicable to XACML implementations. Have there been any new developments in this area since that statement was issued in 2002? Thanks, Ray [1] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/xacml/ipr.php --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: xacml-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: xacml-help@lists.oasis-open.org