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  • 1.  WG: [xacml] Acknowledgements

    Posted 01-04-2010 16:41
    Hi *,
    I couldn't find my name on the acknowledgement lists. Would be great if you
    could add my name.
    Best Regards and happy New Year
    Jan
    
    
    
    > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
    > Von: Erik Rissanen [mailto:erik@axiomatics.com]
    > Gesendet: Montag, 4. Januar 2010 16:48
    > An: xacml
    > Betreff: [xacml] Acknowledgements
    > 
    > All,
    > 
    > Can you make sure that you review the list of acknowledgements in the
    > latest working drafts? Once they get voted up, we cannot change the list
    > without having to go back to a working draft and redo the whole voting
    > process.
    > 
    > Last time round for CD-1, I got complaints about missing people after
    > the vote. So, please check it now.
    > 
    > Best regards,
    > Erik
    > 
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  • 2.  Re: WG: [xacml] Acknowledgements

    Posted 01-04-2010 18:00
    
    
      
    
    
    Hi Erik,

    I couldn't find my name either. Have you made sure that all current TC members or voting members - not sure the criteria are on the list?

        Thanks,
        Rich


    Jan Herrmann wrote:
    Hi *,
    I couldn't find my name on the acknowledgement lists. Would be great if you
    could add my name.
    Best Regards and happy New Year
    Jan
    
    
    
      
    -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
    Von: Erik Rissanen [mailto:erik@axiomatics.com]
    Gesendet: Montag, 4. Januar 2010 16:48
    An: xacml
    Betreff: [xacml] Acknowledgements
    
    All,
    
    Can you make sure that you review the list of acknowledgements in the
    latest working drafts? Once they get voted up, we cannot change the list
    without having to go back to a working draft and redo the whole voting
    process.
    
    Last time round for CD-1, I got complaints about missing people after
    the vote. So, please check it now.
    
    Best regards,
    Erik
    
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  • 3.  Re: WG: [xacml] Acknowledgements

    Posted 01-04-2010 18:20
    
    
      
      
    
    
    Hi Rich,

    I used the list that Bill posted here:

    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00062.html

    I posted about the list just before the holidays here (I got no objections then):

    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00109.html

    Mary responded with some clarifications about OASIS policy here:

    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00117.html

    Hal, Bill, do you want to make any changes to the list based on Mary's comments?

    Best regards,
    Erik


    On 2010-01-04 18:58, Rich.Levinson wrote:
    4B422C48.2010107@oracle.com" type="cite"> Hi Erik,

    I couldn't find my name either. Have you made sure that all current TC members or voting members - not sure the criteria are on the list?

        Thanks,
        Rich


    Jan Herrmann wrote:
    Hi *,
    I couldn't find my name on the acknowledgement lists. Would be great if you
    could add my name.
    Best Regards and happy New Year
    Jan
    
    
    
      
    -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
    Von: Erik Rissanen [mailto:erik@axiomatics.com]
    Gesendet: Montag, 4. Januar 2010 16:48
    An: xacml
    Betreff: [xacml] Acknowledgements
    
    All,
    
    Can you make sure that you review the list of acknowledgements in the
    latest working drafts? Once they get voted up, we cannot change the list
    without having to go back to a working draft and redo the whole voting
    process.
    
    Last time round for CD-1, I got complaints about missing people after
    the vote. So, please check it now.
    
    Best regards,
    Erik
    
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  • 4.  Re: WG: [xacml] Acknowledgements

    Posted 01-04-2010 18:52
    
    
      
    
    
    Hi Erik,

    I can't quite tell from your reply if you are going to add my name, but I will assume you are. :)

    I am not sure how Bill constructed the original list you referred to (i.e. I read what he said http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00062.html, but it did not seem to be complete looking at it now - i.e. I can't figure out, based on current voting members, how the additional names were selected), but I acknowledge that I missed the significance of it at the time: I was under the impression that it was trying to collect some names of prior TC members who were not current active participants and kind of assumed that all active people were included.

        Thanks,
        Rich

    Erik Rissanen wrote:
    4B42312A.80609@axiomatics.com" type="cite"> Hi Rich,

    I used the list that Bill posted here:

    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00062.html

    I posted about the list just before the holidays here (I got no objections then):

    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00109.html

    Mary responded with some clarifications about OASIS policy here:

    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00117.html

    Hal, Bill, do you want to make any changes to the list based on Mary's comments?

    Best regards,
    Erik


    On 2010-01-04 18:58, Rich.Levinson wrote:
    4B422C48.2010107@oracle.com" type="cite"> Hi Erik,

    I couldn't find my name either. Have you made sure that all current TC members or voting members - not sure the criteria are on the list?

        Thanks,
        Rich


    Jan Herrmann wrote:
    Hi *,
    I couldn't find my name on the acknowledgement lists. Would be great if you
    could add my name.
    Best Regards and happy New Year
    Jan
    
    
    
      
    -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
    Von: Erik Rissanen [mailto:erik@axiomatics.com]
    Gesendet: Montag, 4. Januar 2010 16:48
    An: xacml
    Betreff: [xacml] Acknowledgements
    
    All,
    
    Can you make sure that you review the list of acknowledgements in the
    latest working drafts? Once they get voted up, we cannot change the list
    without having to go back to a working draft and redo the whole voting
    process.
    
    Last time round for CD-1, I got complaints about missing people after
    the vote. So, please check it now.
    
    Best regards,
    Erik
    
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  • 5.  Re: WG: [xacml] Acknowledgements

    Posted 01-04-2010 19:05
    
    
      
      
    
    
    Hi Again,

    To further clarify, I have looked at the list Bill originally sent out below, and below that indicated the names that are voting members and the names of voting members who were not included. I notice that several of the non-voting members who are on the list have been recent active participants. But there have been others as well, such as Naomaru Itoi of NextLabs and Martin Smith of USDHS, who are not on the list. Maybe it just will take a bit more attention by more members to get it right.

    Anil Saldhana    Voting Member
    Bill Parducci    Voting Member, Chair
    Craig Forster
    David Chadwick
    David Staggs    Voting Member
    Dilli Arumugam    Voting Member
    Erik Rissanen    Voting Member
    Gareth Richards    Voting Member
    Hal Lockhart    Voting Member, Chair
    John Tolbert    Voting Member
    Ludwig Seitz
    Michael McIntosh
    Michiharu Kudo
    Paul Tyson    Voting Member
    Prateek Mishra
    Ron Jacobson
    Seth Proctor    Voting Member
    Tim Moses
    Vernon Murdoch

        Not included:

    Jan Herrmann   Voting Member
    Rich Levinson   Voting Member, Secretary
    Duane DeCouteau   Voting Member

        Thanks,
        Rich


    Rich.Levinson wrote:
    4B423877.9010805@oracle.com" type="cite"> Hi Erik,

    I can't quite tell from your reply if you are going to add my name, but I will assume you are. :)

    I am not sure how Bill constructed the original list you referred to (i.e. I read what he said http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00062.html, but it did not seem to be complete looking at it now - i.e. I can't figure out, based on current voting members, how the additional names were selected), but I acknowledge that I missed the significance of it at the time: I was under the impression that it was trying to collect some names of prior TC members who were not current active participants and kind of assumed that all active people were included.

        Thanks,
        Rich

    Erik Rissanen wrote:
    4B42312A.80609@axiomatics.com" type="cite"> Hi Rich,

    I used the list that Bill posted here:

    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00062.html

    I posted about the list just before the holidays here (I got no objections then):

    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00109.html

    Mary responded with some clarifications about OASIS policy here:

    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00117.html

    Hal, Bill, do you want to make any changes to the list based on Mary's comments?

    Best regards,
    Erik


    On 2010-01-04 18:58, Rich.Levinson wrote:
    4B422C48.2010107@oracle.com" type="cite"> Hi Erik,

    I couldn't find my name either. Have you made sure that all current TC members or voting members - not sure the criteria are on the list?

        Thanks,
        Rich


    Jan Herrmann wrote:
    Hi *,
    I couldn't find my name on the acknowledgement lists. Would be great if you
    could add my name.
    Best Regards and happy New Year
    Jan
    
    
    
      
    -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
    Von: Erik Rissanen [mailto:erik@axiomatics.com]
    Gesendet: Montag, 4. Januar 2010 16:48
    An: xacml
    Betreff: [xacml] Acknowledgements
    
    All,
    
    Can you make sure that you review the list of acknowledgements in the
    latest working drafts? Once they get voted up, we cannot change the list
    without having to go back to a working draft and redo the whole voting
    process.
    
    Last time round for CD-1, I got complaints about missing people after
    the vote. So, please check it now.
    
    Best regards,
    Erik
    
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  • 6.  Re: WG: [xacml] Acknowledgements

    Posted 01-04-2010 19:32
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  • 7.  Re: WG: [xacml] Acknowledgements

    Posted 01-04-2010 20:42
    
    
      
    
    
    Hi Bill,

    Ok, I think I understand. The algorithm is:
    • The voting members who are listed on the top portion of the spreadsheet (sent in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201001/msg00011.html), ending alphabetically w Paul Tyson.
    • Plus, any contributers listed in the acknowledgments of XACML 2.0 who are in the bottom half of the spreadsheet (non-voting current members)
    • Plus, at "chair's discretion" (based on Mary email) other non-voting members who have been recent active participants in the XACML 3.0 process.
    Does this sound right?
    If so, then based on that, my inclination would be to include any on the bottom half who have been recent active participants, such as those who actively attended the F2F as well as active emailers/meeting attenders, who may have had intermittent voting status in the 3.0 time frame.

        Thanks,
        Rich




    Bill Parducci wrote:
    C9DC1154-47B7-4DC2-9128-744B35BF289F@parducci.net" type="cite">
    it was created by taking the intersection of the names in the earlier version (v2) with the current members of the tc and adding in all current voting members. the reasoning behind this combination is that we wanted to attribute as many of the early authors as possible, however TC rules only allow this to apply to current members. the exception is ludwig sietz who made contributions as a non-voting member during the v3 development process.  
    
    you may have been missed because kavi doesn't show you as "voting member", but rather "secretary"--an obvious error on my part.
    
    attached is what is shown as the current active member list as of today:
    
      

    b On Jan 4, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Rich.Levinson wrote:
    Hi Erik,
    
    I can't quite tell from your reply if you are going to add my name, but I will assume you are. :)
    
    I am not sure how Bill constructed the original list you referred to (i.e. I read what he said http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00062.html, but it did not seem to be complete looking at it now - i.e. I can't figure out, based on current voting members, how the additional names were selected), but I acknowledge that I missed the significance of it at the time: I was under the impression that it was trying to collect some names of prior TC members who were not current active participants and kind of assumed that all active people were included.
    
        Thanks,
        Rich
    
    Erik Rissanen wrote:
        
    Hi Rich,
    
    I used the list that Bill posted here:
    
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00062.html
    
    I posted about the list just before the holidays here (I got no objections then):
    
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00109.html
    
    Mary responded with some clarifications about OASIS policy here:
    
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00117.html
    
    Hal, Bill, do you want to make any changes to the list based on Mary's comments?
    
    Best regards,
    Erik
    
    
    On 2010-01-04 18:58, Rich.Levinson wrote:
          
    Hi Erik,
    
    I couldn't find my name either. Have you made sure that all current TC members or voting members - not sure the criteria are on the list?
    
        Thanks,
        Rich
    
    
    Jan Herrmann wrote:
            
    Hi *,
    I couldn't find my name on the acknowledgement lists. Would be great if you
    could add my name.
    Best Regards and happy New Year
    Jan
    
    
    
      
    
              
    -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
    Von: Erik Rissanen [
    mailto:erik@axiomatics.com
    ]
    Gesendet: Montag, 4. Januar 2010 16:48
    An: xacml
    Betreff: [xacml] Acknowledgements
    
    All,
    
    Can you make sure that you review the list of acknowledgements in the
    latest working drafts? Once they get voted up, we cannot change the list
    without having to go back to a working draft and redo the whole voting
    process.
    
    Last time round for CD-1, I got complaints about missing people after
    the vote. So, please check it now.
    
    Best regards,
    Erik
    
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  • 8.  Re: WG: [xacml] Acknowledgements

    Posted 01-04-2010 21:36
    Hi everyone,

     Here's the actual TC Process text from Section 2.18:
    "A specification that is approved by the TC at any level must include a list of people who participated in the development of the specification. This list shall be initially compiled by the Chair, and any Member of the TC may add or remove their names from the list by request."

    Regards,

    Mary

    Mary P McRae
    Director, Standards Development
    Technical Committee Administrator
    OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
    twitter: @fiberartisan  #oasisopen
    phone: 1.603.232.9090

    Standards are like parachutes: they work best when they're open.



    On Jan 4, 2010, at 3:40 PM, Rich.Levinson wrote:

    Hi Bill,

    Ok, I think I understand. The algorithm is:
    • The voting members who are listed on the top portion of the spreadsheet (sent in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201001/msg00011.html), ending alphabetically w Paul Tyson.
    • Plus, any contributers listed in the acknowledgments of XACML 2.0 who are in the bottom half of the spreadsheet (non-voting current members)
    • Plus, at "chair's discretion" (based on Mary email) other non-voting members who have been recent active participants in the XACML 3.0 process.
    Does this sound right?
    If so, then based on that, my inclination would be to include any on the bottom half who have been recent active participants, such as those who actively attended the F2F as well as active emailers/meeting attenders, who may have had intermittent voting status in the 3.0 time frame.

        Thanks,
        Rich




    Bill Parducci wrote:
    C9DC1154-47B7-4DC2-9128-744B35BF289F@parducci.net" type="cite">
    it was created by taking the intersection of the names in the earlier version (v2) with the current members of the tc and adding in all current voting members. the reasoning behind this combination is that we wanted to attribute as many of the early authors as possible, however TC rules only allow this to apply to current members. the exception is ludwig sietz who made contributions as a non-voting member during the v3 development process.  
    
    you may have been missed because kavi doesn't show you as "voting member", but rather "secretary"--an obvious error on my part.
    
    attached is what is shown as the current active member list as of today:
    
      

    b On Jan 4, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Rich.Levinson wrote:
    Hi Erik,
    
    I can't quite tell from your reply if you are going to add my name, but I will assume you are. :)
    
    I am not sure how Bill constructed the original list you referred to (i.e. I read what he said http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00062.html, but it did not seem to be complete looking at it now - i.e. I can't figure out, based on current voting members, how the additional names were selected), but I acknowledge that I missed the significance of it at the time: I was under the impression that it was trying to collect some names of prior TC members who were not current active participants and kind of assumed that all active people were included.
    
        Thanks,
        Rich
    
    Erik Rissanen wrote:
        
    Hi Rich,
    
    I used the list that Bill posted here:
    
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00062.html
    
    I posted about the list just before the holidays here (I got no objections then):
    
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00109.html
    
    Mary responded with some clarifications about OASIS policy here:
    
    http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00117.html
    
    Hal, Bill, do you want to make any changes to the list based on Mary's comments?
    
    Best regards,
    Erik
    
    
    On 2010-01-04 18:58, Rich.Levinson wrote:
          
    Hi Erik,
    
    I couldn't find my name either. Have you made sure that all current TC members or voting members - not sure the criteria are on the list?
    
        Thanks,
        Rich
    
    
    Jan Herrmann wrote:
            
    Hi *,
    I couldn't find my name on the acknowledgement lists. Would be great if you
    could add my name.
    Best Regards and happy New Year
    Jan
    
    
    
      
    
              
    -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
    Von: Erik Rissanen [
    mailto:erik@axiomatics.com
    ]
    Gesendet: Montag, 4. Januar 2010 16:48
    An: xacml
    Betreff: [xacml] Acknowledgements
    
    All,
    
    Can you make sure that you review the list of acknowledgements in the
    latest working drafts? Once they get voted up, we cannot change the list
    without having to go back to a working draft and redo the whole voting
    process.
    
    Last time round for CD-1, I got complaints about missing people after
    the vote. So, please check it now.
    
    Best regards,
    Erik
    
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  • 9.  Re: WG: [xacml] Acknowledgements

    Posted 01-04-2010 21:51
    yep. that is how i did it.
    
    your suggestion sounds good to me.
    
    b
    
    On Jan 4, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Rich.Levinson wrote:
    
    > Hi Bill,
    > 
    > Ok, I think I understand. The algorithm is:
    > 	• The voting members who are listed on the top portion of the spreadsheet (sent in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201001/msg00011.html), ending alphabetically w Paul Tyson.
    > 	• Plus, any contributers listed in the acknowledgments of XACML 2.0 who are in the bottom half of the spreadsheet (non-voting current members)
    > 	• Plus, at "chair's discretion" (based on Mary email) other non-voting members who have been recent active participants in the XACML 3.0 process.
    > Does this sound right? 
    > If so, then based on that, my inclination would be to include any on the bottom half who have been recent active participants, such as those who actively attended the F2F as well as active emailers/meeting attenders, who may have had intermittent voting status in the 3.0 time frame.
    > 
    >     Thanks,
    >     Rich
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > Bill Parducci wrote:
    >> it was created by taking the intersection of the names in the earlier version (v2) with the current members of the tc and adding in all current voting members. the reasoning behind this combination is that we wanted to attribute as many of the early authors as possible, however TC rules only allow this to apply to current members. the exception is ludwig sietz who made contributions as a non-voting member during the v3 development process.  
    >> 
    >> you may have been missed because kavi doesn't show you as "voting member", but rather "secretary"--an obvious error on my part.
    >> 
    >> attached is what is shown as the current active member list as of today:
    >> 
    >>   
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    >> b
    >> 
    >> On Jan 4, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Rich.Levinson wrote:
    >> 
    >>   
    >> 
    >>> Hi Erik,
    >>> 
    >>> I can't quite tell from your reply if you are going to add my name, but I will assume you are. :)
    >>> 
    >>> I am not sure how Bill constructed the original list you referred to (i.e. I read what he said 
    >>> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00062.html
    >>> , but it did not seem to be complete looking at it now - i.e. I can't figure out, based on current voting members, how the additional names were selected), but I acknowledge that I missed the significance of it at the time: I was under the impression that it was trying to collect some names of prior TC members who were not current active participants and kind of assumed that all active people were included.
    >>> 
    >>>     Thanks,
    >>>     Rich
    >>> 
    >>> Erik Rissanen wrote:
    >>>     
    >>> 
    >>>> Hi Rich,
    >>>> 
    >>>> I used the list that Bill posted here:
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00062.html
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> I posted about the list just before the holidays here (I got no objections then):
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00109.html
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> Mary responded with some clarifications about OASIS policy here:
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00117.html
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> Hal, Bill, do you want to make any changes to the list based on Mary's comments?
    >>>> 
    >>>> Best regards,
    >>>> Erik
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> On 2010-01-04 18:58, Rich.Levinson wrote:
    >>>>       
    >>>> 
    >>>>> Hi Erik,
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> I couldn't find my name either. Have you made sure that all current TC members or voting members - not sure the criteria are on the list?
    >>>>> 
    >>>>>     Thanks,
    >>>>>     Rich
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> Jan Herrmann wrote:
    >>>>>         
    >>>>> 
    >>>>>> Hi *,
    >>>>>> I couldn't find my name on the acknowledgement lists. Would be great if you
    >>>>>> could add my name.
    >>>>>> Best Regards and happy New Year
    >>>>>> Jan
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>>   
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>>           
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
    >>>>>>> Von: Erik Rissanen [
    >>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>> mailto:erik@axiomatics.com
    >>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>> ]
    >>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 4. Januar 2010 16:48
    >>>>>>> An: xacml
    >>>>>>> Betreff: [xacml] Acknowledgements
    >>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>> All,
    >>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>> Can you make sure that you review the list of acknowledgements in the
    >>>>>>> latest working drafts? Once they get voted up, we cannot change the list
    >>>>>>> without having to go back to a working draft and redo the whole voting
    >>>>>>> process.
    >>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>> Last time round for CD-1, I got complaints about missing people after
    >>>>>>> the vote. So, please check it now.
    >>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>> Best regards,
    >>>>>>> Erik
    >>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that
    >>>>>>> generates this mail.  Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at:
    >>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php
    >>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>     
    >>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>             
    >>>>>>> 
    >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that
    >>>>>> generates this mail.  Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at:
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>>  
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>>   
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>>           
    >>>>>> 
    >> 
    >>   
    >> 
    
    


  • 10.  Re: WG: [xacml] Acknowledgements

    Posted 01-05-2010 08:48
    Hi Bill,
    
    How should the final list look like? I could collect it myself according 
    to the algorithm in Rich's email, but I need for the chairs to do the 
    third step.
    
    Best regards,
    Erik
    
    
    On 01/04/2010 10:51 PM, Bill Parducci wrote:
    > yep. that is how i did it.
    >
    > your suggestion sounds good to me.
    >
    > b
    >
    > On Jan 4, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Rich.Levinson wrote:
    >
    >    
    >> Hi Bill,
    >>
    >> Ok, I think I understand. The algorithm is:
    >> 	• The voting members who are listed on the top portion of the spreadsheet (sent in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201001/msg00011.html), ending alphabetically w Paul Tyson.
    >> 	• Plus, any contributers listed in the acknowledgments of XACML 2.0 who are in the bottom half of the spreadsheet (non-voting current members)
    >> 	• Plus, at "chair's discretion" (based on Mary email) other non-voting members who have been recent active participants in the XACML 3.0 process.
    >> Does this sound right?
    >> If so, then based on that, my inclination would be to include any on the bottom half who have been recent active participants, such as those who actively attended the F2F as well as active emailers/meeting attenders, who may have had intermittent voting status in the 3.0 time frame.
    >>
    >>      Thanks,
    >>      Rich
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Bill Parducci wrote:
    >>      
    >>> it was created by taking the intersection of the names in the earlier version (v2) with the current members of the tc and adding in all current voting members. the reasoning behind this combination is that we wanted to attribute as many of the early authors as possible, however TC rules only allow this to apply to current members. the exception is ludwig sietz who made contributions as a non-voting member during the v3 development process.
    >>>
    >>> you may have been missed because kavi doesn't show you as "voting member", but rather "secretary"--an obvious error on my part.
    >>>
    >>> attached is what is shown as the current active member list as of today:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> b
    >>>
    >>> On Jan 4, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Rich.Levinson wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>        
    >>>> Hi Erik,
    >>>>
    >>>> I can't quite tell from your reply if you are going to add my name, but I will assume you are. :)
    >>>>
    >>>> I am not sure how Bill constructed the original list you referred to (i.e. I read what he said
    >>>> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00062.html
    >>>> , but it did not seem to be complete looking at it now - i.e. I can't figure out, based on current voting members, how the additional names were selected), but I acknowledge that I missed the significance of it at the time: I was under the impression that it was trying to collect some names of prior TC members who were not current active participants and kind of assumed that all active people were included.
    >>>>
    >>>>      Thanks,
    >>>>      Rich
    >>>>
    >>>> Erik Rissanen wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>          
    >>>>> Hi Rich,
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I used the list that Bill posted here:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00062.html
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I posted about the list just before the holidays here (I got no objections then):
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00109.html
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Mary responded with some clarifications about OASIS policy here:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00117.html
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Hal, Bill, do you want to make any changes to the list based on Mary's comments?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Best regards,
    >>>>> Erik
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 2010-01-04 18:58, Rich.Levinson wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>            
    >>>>>> Hi Erik,
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I couldn't find my name either. Have you made sure that all current TC members or voting members - not sure the criteria are on the list?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>      Thanks,
    >>>>>>      Rich
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Jan Herrmann wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>              
    >>>>>>> Hi *,
    >>>>>>> I couldn't find my name on the acknowledgement lists. Would be great if you
    >>>>>>> could add my name.
    >>>>>>> Best Regards and happy New Year
    >>>>>>> Jan
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>                
    >>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
    >>>>>>>> Von: Erik Rissanen [
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> mailto:erik@axiomatics.com
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> ]
    >>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 4. Januar 2010 16:48
    >>>>>>>> An: xacml
    >>>>>>>> Betreff: [xacml] Acknowledgements
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> All,
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Can you make sure that you review the list of acknowledgements in the
    >>>>>>>> latest working drafts? Once they get voted up, we cannot change the list
    >>>>>>>> without having to go back to a working draft and redo the whole voting
    >>>>>>>> process.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Last time round for CD-1, I got complaints about missing people after
    >>>>>>>> the vote. So, please check it now.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Best regards,
    >>>>>>>> Erik
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that
    >>>>>>>> generates this mail.  Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>                  
    >>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that
    >>>>>>> generates this mail.  Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>                
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>        
    >    
    
    


  • 11.  Re: WG: [xacml] Acknowledgements

    Posted 01-05-2010 15:11
    Lets take the list in the draft, add Rich and Anil T. and post it to the list. This will be the most efficient way to make sure it is reviewed and accurate. The draft has the version that I posted using the algorithm below so we are simply in an edit/correction phase of that list from this point forward. Any TC member wishing to be added/removed will be able to do so by contacting one of the Chairs prior to draft moving forward.
    
    thanks
    
    b
    
    On Jan 5, 2010, at 12:47 AM, Erik Rissanen wrote:
    
    > Hi Bill,
    > 
    > How should the final list look like? I could collect it myself according to the algorithm in Rich's email, but I need for the chairs to do the third step.
    > 
    > Best regards,
    > Erik
    > 
    > 
    > On 01/04/2010 10:51 PM, Bill Parducci wrote:
    >> yep. that is how i did it.
    >> 
    >> your suggestion sounds good to me.
    >> 
    >> b
    >> 
    >> On Jan 4, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Rich.Levinson wrote:
    >> 
    >>   
    >>> Hi Bill,
    >>> 
    >>> Ok, I think I understand. The algorithm is:
    >>> 	• The voting members who are listed on the top portion of the spreadsheet (sent in http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/201001/msg00011.html), ending alphabetically w Paul Tyson.
    >>> 	• Plus, any contributers listed in the acknowledgments of XACML 2.0 who are in the bottom half of the spreadsheet (non-voting current members)
    >>> 	• Plus, at "chair's discretion" (based on Mary email) other non-voting members who have been recent active participants in the XACML 3.0 process.
    >>> Does this sound right?
    >>> If so, then based on that, my inclination would be to include any on the bottom half who have been recent active participants, such as those who actively attended the F2F as well as active emailers/meeting attenders, who may have had intermittent voting status in the 3.0 time frame.
    >>> 
    >>>     Thanks,
    >>>     Rich
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> Bill Parducci wrote:
    >>>     
    >>>> it was created by taking the intersection of the names in the earlier version (v2) with the current members of the tc and adding in all current voting members. the reasoning behind this combination is that we wanted to attribute as many of the early authors as possible, however TC rules only allow this to apply to current members. the exception is ludwig sietz who made contributions as a non-voting member during the v3 development process.
    >>>> 
    >>>> you may have been missed because kavi doesn't show you as "voting member", but rather "secretary"--an obvious error on my part.
    >>>> 
    >>>> attached is what is shown as the current active member list as of today:
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> b
    >>>> 
    >>>> On Jan 4, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Rich.Levinson wrote:
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>>       
    >>>>> Hi Erik,
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> I can't quite tell from your reply if you are going to add my name, but I will assume you are. :)
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> I am not sure how Bill constructed the original list you referred to (i.e. I read what he said
    >>>>> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00062.html
    >>>>> , but it did not seem to be complete looking at it now - i.e. I can't figure out, based on current voting members, how the additional names were selected), but I acknowledge that I missed the significance of it at the time: I was under the impression that it was trying to collect some names of prior TC members who were not current active participants and kind of assumed that all active people were included.
    >>>>> 
    >>>>>     Thanks,
    >>>>>     Rich
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> Erik Rissanen wrote:
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> 
    >>>>>         
    >>>>>> Hi Rich,
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> I used the list that Bill posted here:
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200909/msg00062.html
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> I posted about the list just before the holidays here (I got no objections then):
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00109.html
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> Mary responded with some clarifications about OASIS policy here:
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xacml/200912/msg00117.html
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> Hal, Bill, do you want to make any changes to the list based on Mary's comments?
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> Best regards,
    >>>>>> Erik
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> On 2010-01-04 18:58, Rich.Levinson wrote:
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>>           
    >>>>>>> Hi Erik,
    >>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>> I couldn't find my name either. Have you made sure that all current TC members or voting members - not sure the criteria are on the list?
    >>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>     Thanks,
    >>>>>>>     Rich
    >>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>> Jan Herrmann wrote:
    >>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>             
    >>>>>>>> Hi *,
    >>>>>>>> I couldn't find my name on the acknowledgement lists. Would be great if you
    >>>>>>>> could add my name.
    >>>>>>>> Best Regards and happy New Year
    >>>>>>>> Jan
    >>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>>               
    >>>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
    >>>>>>>>> Von: Erik Rissanen [
    >>>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>>> mailto:erik@axiomatics.com
    >>>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>>> ]
    >>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 4. Januar 2010 16:48
    >>>>>>>>> An: xacml
    >>>>>>>>> Betreff: [xacml] Acknowledgements
    >>>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>>> All,
    >>>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>>> Can you make sure that you review the list of acknowledgements in the
    >>>>>>>>> latest working drafts? Once they get voted up, we cannot change the list
    >>>>>>>>> without having to go back to a working draft and redo the whole voting
    >>>>>>>>> process.
    >>>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>>> Last time round for CD-1, I got complaints about missing people after
    >>>>>>>>> the vote. So, please check it now.
    >>>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>>> Best regards,
    >>>>>>>>> Erik
    >>>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that
    >>>>>>>>> generates this mail.  Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at:
    >>>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>>> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php
    >>>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>>>                 
    >>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that
    >>>>>>>> generates this mail.  Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at:
    >>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php
    >>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>> 
    >>>>>>>>               
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>>       
    >>   
    >