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RE: XACML TC Charter Revision - Strawman

  • 1.  RE: XACML TC Charter Revision - Strawman

    Posted 05-31-2001 07:08
    
    In the last sentence, do you mean a role assignment policy by
    'anyone with the X role also has the Y role'?
    If so, the role assignment might be done in the authentication step,
    not authorization step. If not, could you explain more in detail,
    particularly cases that <role> is specified in the <object>.
    
    regards,
    Michiharu Kudo
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    From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <pbaker@verisign.com> on 2001/05/31 19:49
    
    Please respond to Phillip Hallam-Baker <pbaker@verisign.com>
    
    To:   Marlena Erdos/Austin/Contr/IBM@IBMUS, "'xacml@lists.oasis-open.org'"
          <xacml@lists.oasis-open.org>
    cc:
    Subject:  RE: XACML TC Charter Revision - Strawman
    
    
    
    I agree with Marlena, keep the term 'subject' to refer to the principal
    regardless of whether it be one principal or a set of principals.
    
    So for example an XACML <Role> could be a principal, indicating that anyone
    with the specified Role had the specified relationship to the <Object>.
    
    It is essential to differentiate the occurence of a <role> in the <subject>
    and the occurence of a <role> in the <object>. A particular assertion might
    even have roles in both locations 'anyone with the X Role also has the Y
    role' - very useful for mapping external roles and attributes onto localy
    defined roles.
    
              Phill
    
    Phillip Hallam-Baker FBCS C.Eng.
    Principal Scientist
    VeriSign Inc.
    pbaker@verisign.com
    781 245 6996 x227
    
    
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Marlena Erdos [mailto:marlena@us.ibm.com]
    > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 1:41 AM
    > To: 'xacml@lists.oasis-open.org'
    > Subject: RE: XACML TC Charter Revision - Strawman
    >
    >
    > >Policy Target
    > >The target of a policy (hereafter referred to as "subject")
    > can be any
    > >object that can be referenced in XML.
    >
    > In my experience, the term "subject" would more usually
    > refer to the principle requesting access to a resource.
    >
    > I can't tell for sure if XACML policies are exclusively
    > resource-centric (a list of principles/groups/roles that
    > have access to a given resource) or also encompass
    > principle-centric policies (i.e.
    > a list of the resources a given principle has access to).
    > Or maybe we want to be able to express both.
    > However, I don't think "subject" is
    > appropriate when talking about the target for
    > resource-centric policies.  (It would be OK for
    > principle-centric ones.)
    >    Instead of "subject", why don't we just use "target"?
    > I think that covers both the principle-centric case and
    > the resource-centric one fairly nicely.
    >
    > Regards,
    > Marlena Erdos
    > IBM/Tivoli
    >
    >
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