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  • 1.  DSigProposal references

    Posted 01-05-2009 22:07
    Hello Patrick
    
    Further to this afternoon's discussion I have added references to the
    ETSI XAdES standard and the W3C XML-DSIG (courtesy of Dennis).  You
    can check what I have here:
    http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/DSigProposal.
    
    I'm also not sure about the URI to one-hop-from-what-you-really-want.
    I've fudged by saying "available via http://.." instead of "available
    at".  Feels a bit like cheating, but this is the reference the ETSI TC
    gave us.  It looks like you can bypass the whole rigmarole and go
    straight to http://pda.etsi.org/exchangefolder/ts_101903v010302p.pdf
    but perhaps they want readers to read the copyright notice and the
    blurb first.
    
    Cheers
    Bob
    


  • 2.  Re: DSigProposal references

    Posted 01-06-2009 00:17
    Bob,
    
    Bob Jolliffe wrote:
    > Hello Patrick
    >
    > Further to this afternoon's discussion I have added references to the
    > ETSI XAdES standard and the W3C XML-DSIG (courtesy of Dennis).  You
    > can check what I have here:
    > http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/DSigProposal.
    >
    >   
    Thanks!
    > I'm also not sure about the URI to one-hop-from-what-you-really-want.
    > I've fudged by saying "available via http://.." instead of "available
    > at".  Feels a bit like cheating, but this is the reference the ETSI TC
    > gave us.  It looks like you can bypass the whole rigmarole and go
    > straight to http://pda.etsi.org/exchangefolder/ts_101903v010302p.pdf
    > but perhaps they want readers to read the copyright notice and the
    > blurb first.
    >
    >   
    Yes, the direct access works but I don't have a serious problem with 
    getting users to read their blurb. ;-)
    
    To some degree it is a question of changing practice. To give a URL 
    really is a convenience to the reader, it doesn't really constitute a 
    reference to the work. That is the digital signature standard would 
    exist whether I can access it via http or if I have to request a paper 
    copy. Which would be ironic but not unknown. ;-)
    
    BTW, with your current text:
    
    > "Files within a package may have digital signatures applied. These 
    > digital signatures *shall* conform to the W3C XML Digital Signature 
    > specification [xml-dsig]. Applications *may* use extensions to the XML 
    > DSIG core specification, such as those required for implementation of 
    > XAdES signatures specified in ETSI TS 101 903 v1.3.2 [xades]. Digital 
    > signatures are stored in one or more files within the META-INF folder."
    My suggestion was:
    
    "Files within a package may have digital signatures applied. These 
    digital signatures *shall* conform to the W3C XML Digital Signature 
    specification [xml-dsig].
    
    Note: Applications may use extensions to the XML DSIG core 
    specification, such as those required for implementation of XAdES 
    signatures specified in ETSI TS 101 903 v1.3.2 [xades]. **
    
    Digital signatures are stored in one or more files within the META-INF 
    folder."
    
    Reasoning that the permissive "may" is actually defined by the W3C 
    specification and not ODF.
    
    It is a minor point and if you prefer the full paragraph style I have no 
    serious issue with it. It may be more acceptable to the interests who 
    want this feature to be stated that way.
    
    Hope you are having a great day!
    
    Patrick
    
    
    -- 
    Patrick Durusau
    patrick@durusau.net
    Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34
    Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps)
    Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300
    Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)
    
    


  • 3.  Re: DSigProposal references

    Posted 01-06-2009 12:57
    Hi Patrick
    
    Jomar and I both think the note form works well.  It better captures
    the fact that we
    are not proposing doing anything which is outside xml dsig.  I will change it.
    
    Regards
    Bob
    
    2009/1/6 Patrick Durusau 


  • 4.  Re: [office] Re: DSigProposal references

    Posted 01-06-2009 13:28
    Bob,
    
    Bob Jolliffe wrote:
    > Hi Patrick
    >
    > Jomar and I both think the note form works well.  It better captures
    > the fact that we
    > are not proposing doing anything which is outside xml dsig.  I will change it.
    >
    >   
    Glad to be of service!
    
    Hope you are having a great day!
    
    Patrick
    > Regards
    > Bob
    >
    > 2009/1/6 Patrick Durusau