Hurray! An agenda a bit further ahead of time! BTW, several of us (including me) have pending action items. Dear TC members, Below you find a draft agenda for our TC call on Monday, 2016-04-18.
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http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/odf Agenda ------ 1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights 2. Motion (simple majority): Approve the Agenda 3. Motion (simple majority): Approve the Minutes from former TC calls - 04-April-2016 11-April-2016 18-April-2016 (all attached) 4. Action Items: A. Jos to contact implementers on default value lists: - pending - working on it - templates with default values - hasn't been sent out, yet B. Darrin to check on MS Office support for data ranges in pivot tables: - pending C. Thorsten to adapt the proposal in
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2094 - pending D. Patrick - Convert
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-comment/201604/msg00002.html to JIRA issue, set to ODF 1.3 E. Darrin -
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2110 - Will help with compatibility with Word? F. Jos will compile a list of attributes defined as string - for conversion to EBNF and/or regexes (
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2111 ) G. Patrick,
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2118 , compare to schema 5. Notice of Commits (Questions/Discussions welcome) First Notice None at time of posting. 6. JIRA Issues for discussion: Continue: JIRA-Issues-ODF-TC-04April2016.ods 7. New comments on the comments list since last TC call [none so far] 8. Next meeting: 2016-05-02 at 14:30 UTC. 9. Adjournment Hope everyone is at the start of a great week! Patrick -- Patrick Durusau
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http://www.durusau.net Twitter: patrickDurusau ODF-TC-Minutes-04-April-2016 1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights 9:30 AM EST 9:35 AM EST - Roll Call Quorum +Thorsten Behrens +Andreas Guelzow +Regina Henschel Aarti Nankani +Thomas O'Reilly +Michael Stahl +Jos van den Oever +Patrick Durusau Names of voting members preceded by "+" Voting members 6 out of 10 - 60% 60% percent quorum At the end of the meeting today, Aarti Nankani will be a voting member of the TC! Welcome Aarti! 2. Agenda approved by consent 3. Minutes from prior meetings noted. - 07-March-2016 - notice only (attached) - 14-March-2016 - notice only (attached) - 21-March-2016 - notice only (attached) 4. Action Items: A. Jos to contact implementers on default value lists: - pending - working on it - templates with default values - hasn't been sent out, yet B. Darrin to check on MS Office support for data ranges in pivot tables: - pending C. Thorsten to adapt the proposal in
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2094 - pending D. Patrick to close Office-1981 and create new issue for Jos. - see
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3901 done 5. Commits - none to review 6. JIRA issues Office-2102
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2102 Jos van den Oever: XML has CDATA Jos van den Oever: is the same character data meant? Patrick: Regina says we should define character data - but no child elements - Jos van den Oever: xml:space="preserve" Patrick: Jos - preserve white space by default - for proper handling of line returns Jos van den Oever: <text:text-input xml:space="preserve"> Jos van den Oever: even if we do not change the spec, the attribute xml:space="preserve" can be used by implementations Jos van den Oever: right now Patrick: Do we need formatting inside a field? Patrick: correction - whitespace formatting Jos van den Oever: 6.1.1 The character content of a paragraph consists of the character data of the paragraph element and the character data of its descendant elements Patrick: Proposed Consent: need to define character data - do control characters belong to character data - but no child elements - set to ODF 1.3 Assign to Patrick - for a proposal for TC Consent to set Office-2102 to ODF-1.3 Office-2103
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2103 Consent - set 2103 to 1.3 Office-2104
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2104 Patrick: 2104 - Regina suggests changing to task - leave at 1.3? Consent to change Office-2104, leave at ODF 1.3 Office-2105
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2105 Consent to change to task - last task Office-2106
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2106 Jos - distinguishing 1.2 from 1.2 extended, have to review the entire document to see if it is extended Patrick: tricky to figure out if extended or not Patrick: we don't have a flag for extended/non-extended - Consent to make this a task as well Office-2107
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2107 Consent to 1.3 Office-2108
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2108 Consent to close 2108 Adjourn 10:30 pm ODF-TC-Minutes-11-April-2016 1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights 9:30 AM EST 9:35 AM EST - Roll Call Quorum +Andreas Guelzow +Regina Henschel +Darrin House +Michael Stahl +Andras Timar +Jos van den Oever +Patrick Durusau Names of voting members preceded by "+" Voting members 7 out of 11 - 63% 63 percent quorum Action item: Patrick to convert Eike emails into JIRA issues 2. Consent to agenda 3. prior minutes: Minutes of 07 Mar, 14 March, 21 March, approved by consent 4. Action items: Patrick: Darrin will report next week on pivot ranges 5. No commits 6. JIRA issues Office-2109
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2109 set to ODF 1.3 - to come closer to SVG, a point we need to handle - Regina Consent to set to ODF 1.3. Office-2100
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2110 Office-2100 - Michael - would this help with compatibility with MS Word? Anchor types? Patrick: Darrin will check and report back to the TC. (Action item) Office-2111
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2111 suggestions on Office-2111? Jos - what chance of errors, regexes can be checked with RELAX-NG - Patrick suggest that we close office-2111 - easier to check regexes Patrick close Office-2111 Jos will compile a list of attributes defined as string - for conversion to EBNF and/or regexes Will send to email a list with estimate of regex difficulty (Action item) Office-2112
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2112 Consent Office-2112 - set to ODF-Later Office-2114
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2114 Office-2114 - set to 1.3 - grid size would be useful for spreadsheet implementers - Andreas - grid size useful for validating pointers Consent: set Office-2114 to ODF 1.3 Office-2115
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2115 check against ODF 1.2 current text - report at next meeting Adjourned - 10:30 AM ODF-TC-Minutes-18-April-2016 1. Dial-In, Roll Call, Determination of Quorum and Voting Rights 9:30 AM EST 9:35 AM EST - Roll Call Quorum +Andreas Guelzow +Regina Henschel +Aarti Nankani +Thomas O'Reilly +Michael Stahl +Andras Timar +Jos van den Oever +Patrick Durusau Names of voting members preceded by "+" Voting members 8 out of 11 - 75% 75 percent quorum 2. Agenda, amend to add
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-comment/201604/maillist.html to new issues (#7 on agenda) As amended, consent to agenda. Office-2115
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2115 Patrick: close office-2115 with references to ODF 1.2 part 1 Jos van den Oever:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-v1.2-os-part1.html#__RefHeading__1416408_253892949 Jos van den Oever: 16.28.2Paragraph Styles Patrick: 16.28.2 paragraph styles in part 1 of ODF 1.2 Patrick: my bad, wants to define character style and then use it in a paragraph style. So have the capability but not by using reference to character style. Patrick: by capability, I mean the same effect can be achieved in ODF 1.2 but not by using a reference to a character style. Jos van den Oever: Having the ability to use a reference avoid duplication of text-properties Jos van den Oever: ODF would be more elegent with a reference to a character style instead of having an extra text-properties in the paragraph style. Patrick: would reference to character style supercede an existing definition of text properties - Regina - could say direct or reference but not both - Either or not both in the schema Patrick: Would be a big change for ODF 1.3, possibly more appropriate to ODF 2.0. Jos van den Oever: For ODF 2.0, I think it would a very nice improvement. Patrick: Michael - serious compatibility issues Consent to set for ODF-Next Office-2116
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2116 open but leave for 1.3 - assign to Michael - Office-2117
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2117 consent to 1.3 Office-2118
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2118 Action Item: Patrick - compare to schema Office-2119
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2119 Assign to Regina, set to 1.3 Office-2121 Patrick:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2121 Patrick: closed already Office-2122 Patrick:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2122 Consent to set for ODF 1.3 Patrick: Extend the text but keep the values as positive numbers Office-2123 Patrick:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-2123 Consent to set for ODF 1.3 7. New Comments:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office-comment/201604/msg00002.html Consent to Open one Jira issue, set to 1.3 and correct as indicated. (Action Item for Patrick) Attachment: signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature