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table:filter-condition extension proposal

  • 1.  table:filter-condition extension proposal

    Posted 06-08-2007 19:21 
    Hello,

I would like to propose an extension to the table:filter-condition
element to allow storage of multi-string filter data.  The details are
attached to this email (I hope this list allows attachment).

The motivation for this extension is primarily to develop a new type of
column filter in OO.o Calc where a user can select multiple text values
to display for each column (or field), and to store such filter data in
the file format without losing its semantics.  The proposed change would
allow a clean storage of such multi-text values.

OOXML's SpreadsheetML already has a similar construct for this type of
filter, so this extension would also allow for better interoperability
between ODF and OOXML.

Feedbacks are welcome.

Kohei

-- 
Kohei Yoshida - OpenOffice.org Engineer - Novell, Inc.


  • 2.  Re: [office] table:filter-condition extension proposal

    Posted 06-08-2007 23:52 
    On Friday 08 June 2007 21:20:29 Kohei Yoshida wrote:
> I would like to propose an extension to the table:filter-condition
> element to allow storage of multi-string filter data.  The details are
> attached to this email

IMOHO the values look better as text nodes instead of attributes.
so instead of:


  • 3.  Re: [office] table:filter-condition extension proposal

    Posted 06-12-2007 14:57 
    Hi Thomas,

On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 01:51 +0200, Thomas Zander wrote:
> On Friday 08 June 2007 21:20:29 Kohei Yoshida wrote:
> > I would like to propose an extension to the table:filter-condition
> > element to allow storage of multi-string filter data.  The details are
> > attached to this email
> 
> IMOHO the values look better as text nodes instead of attributes.
> so instead of:
>


  • 4.  Re: [office] table:filter-condition extension proposal

    Posted 06-13-2007 11:08 
    Hi Kohei,

On Tuesday, 2007-06-12 10:56:40 -0400, Kohei Yoshida wrote:

> The original motivation for proposing this format:
> 
>


  • 5.  Re: [office] table:filter-condition extension proposal

    Posted 06-13-2007 11:43 
    On Wednesday 13 June 2007 13:07:27 Eike Rathke wrote:
> > Making the value an attribute will, IMHO, make it consistent with the
> > current filter-condition semantics, although in practice it would not
> > matter too much one way or the other.
> >
> > What do others think of this?
>
> I'm completely unbiased. Thinking that a bit further though: do we need
> a


  • 6.  Re: [office] table:filter-condition extension proposal

    Posted 06-13-2007 13:54 
    Hi Thomas,

On Wednesday, 2007-06-13 13:42:40 +0200, Thomas Zander wrote:

> AFAIK this is not possible, you can't have more than one attribute of the 
> same name.

Ah, ok, let's forget it then.

Then I'd favor the element content as well. To me it somewhat makes more
sense to have an element with data instead of an element without data
but an attribute to express a value.

  Eike

-- 
 OpenOffice.org Engineering at Sun: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS


  • 7.  Re: [office] table:filter-condition extension proposal

    Posted 06-13-2007 11:47 
    On Tuesday 12 June 2007 16:56:40 Kohei Yoshida wrote:
> The original motivation for proposing this format:
>
>    


  • 8.  Re: [office] table:filter-condition extension proposal

    Posted 06-13-2007 18:58 
    On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 13:46 +0200, Thomas Zander wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 June 2007 16:56:40 Kohei Yoshida wrote:
> > The original motivation for proposing this format:
> >
> >


  • 9.  Re: [office] table:filter-condition extension proposal

    Posted 06-15-2007 15:50 
    Hi Kohei,

On Wednesday, 2007-06-13 14:58:08 -0400, Kohei Yoshida wrote:

>    
> 
> How should we interpret this?  Is the leading whitespace significant in
> this case, or not?

It is, see ODF section 1.6 "White-Space Processing and EOL Handling".

> There is also a line break right after the opening
> element.  Should we take it, or not?

Again yes. There would also be a line break before the closing element.

> If we use an attribute for this, however, things are a little less
> complicated, because (as I understand it) line breaks are not allowed in
> an attribute, and if there is a leading and trailing whitespace in the
> value, it is more explicit.  For instance, given the following:
> 
>


  • 10.  Re: [office] table:filter-condition extension proposal

    Posted 06-13-2007 18:59 
    On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 13:46 +0200, Thomas Zander wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 June 2007 16:56:40 Kohei Yoshida wrote:
> > The original motivation for proposing this format:
> >
> >


  • 11.  Re: [office] table:filter-condition extension proposal

    Posted 06-13-2007 19:03 
    On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 14:59 -0400, Kohei Yoshida wrote:

> I've put some additional information in my blog.
> 
> http://blog.kohei.us/2007/06/13/making-autofilter-more-user-friendly/
> 
> Hopefully this gives you more information on the feature in question.

I meant to put this and the previous posts in a single post, but my
mailer decided to send it off before it was ready.  I apologize for the
duplication.

Note to myself: disable Ctrl+Enter!

-- 
Kohei Yoshida - OpenOffice.org Engineer - Novell, Inc.


  • 12.  Re: [office] table:filter-condition extension proposal

    Posted 06-15-2007 13:52 
    On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 15:20 -0400, Kohei Yoshida wrote:

> I would like to propose an extension to the table:filter-condition
> element to allow storage of multi-string filter data.

I was wondering what the next step should be to push this proposal
forward.  Since I'm still new on this TC I don't know the right steps to
proceed.

I'm hoping to get this change into 1.2, so if anybody could tell me what
else I can do to make it in just in time for 1.2, I would appreciate it.

Thanks,
Kohei


  • 13.  Re: [office] table:filter-condition extension proposal

    Posted 06-15-2007 13:59 
    On Jun 15, 2007, at 9:52 AM, Kohei Yoshida wrote:

> I was wondering what the next step should be to push this proposal
> forward.  Since I'm still new on this TC I don't know the right steps 
> to
> proceed.

Request that Lars (or Michael, if he's back) put it on the agenda to 
discuss during a coordination call.

It seems like something simple enough where consensus ought to be able 
to be reached on-list, and the TC discussion is minimal.

Bruce


  • 14.  Re: [office] table:filter-condition extension proposal

    Posted 06-22-2007 07:26 
    Kohei,

I have listed your proposal in the Wiki[1] now, and it will be on the 
agenda of the next call.

Michael

[1] http://wiki.oasis-open.org/office/OpenDocument_v1.2_Action_Items

Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
> 
> On Jun 15, 2007, at 9:52 AM, Kohei Yoshida wrote:
> 
>> I was wondering what the next step should be to push this proposal
>> forward.  Since I'm still new on this TC I don't know the right steps to
>> proceed.
> 
> Request that Lars (or Michael, if he's back) put it on the agenda to 
> discuss during a coordination call.
> 
> It seems like something simple enough where consensus ought to be able 
> to be reached on-list, and the TC discussion is minimal.
> 
> Bruce
> 


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