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    Posted 11-15-2005 16:31
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    Subject: Re: [office] XMP XML:RDF Metadata


    Rob,
    
    I agree to your position. In fact, we agreed to add the document to our 
    document section and to ask for feedback on our normal channels.
    
    I have uploaded the document to our document section now, and I will announce 
    it on our mailing list in a few minutes.
    
    Michael
    
    robert_weir@us.ibm.com wrote On 11/15/05 16:18,:
    > 
    > I'm confused.
    > 
    > OpenDocument is an OASIS specification, so I'd expect the technical 
    > refinement of the specification to occur under OASIS.  I would not 
    > expect that outside, ad-hoc groups would set up technical reviews with 
    > the participation of TC members outside of TC processes and policies. 
    >  Doing so would seem to diminish whatever advantage we have for 
    > promoting a standard developed within a legitimate standards body. 
    >  Remember, even Microsoft can do as much as set up a Wiki and invite 
    > some experts to develop a specification.  But this falls short of doing 
    > it in an international recognized standards body, with defined policies 
    > for decision making, IPR, public comment, liaison with other standards 
    > bodies, etc.  
    > 
    > So let's be quite clear about what were talking about here.  Are we 
    > soliciting public comment on the meta data draft?  If so, let's put it 
    > out for public comment via normal channels, so everyone (not just 
    > OpenDocument Fellowship) is aware of it and has a fair opportunity to 
    > provide comment.  But I'd personally be very careful about TC members 
    > refining an existing proposal in a different organization under 
    > uncertain or incompatible IPR policies which may not allow 
    > reincorporation into the OASIS ODF specification.  Better, in my 
    > opinion, to let the public review and provide comments, and if they want 
    > to submit a revised proposal, let them do so according to existing policy.
    > 
    > -Rob
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > *Michael Brauer - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg <Michael.Brauer@Sun.COM>*
    > 
    > 11/15/2005 09:30 AM
    > 
    > 	
    > To
    > 	mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
    > cc
    > 	"'Gary Edwards'" <gary.edwards@OpenStack.us>, "'Office, OASIS'" 
    > <office@lists.oasis-open.org>
    > Subject
    > 	Re: [office] XMP XML:RDF Metadata
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    > 
    > 
    > 
    > Hi Mary,
    > Hi everyone,
    > 
    > Mary McRae wrote On 11/15/05 14:01,:
    >  >  Hi everyone,
    >  >
    >  >    I tried to dial in yesterday and unfortunately couldn't get 
    > through. I'm sorry to have missed the call. It's unclear to me
    >  > exactly what is being proposed here. Is the metadata project still 
    > considered a work item of the TC? If the answer is yes, all work
    > 
    > Yes. The metadata project is still considered a work item of the TC. 
    > What we
    > have a agreed yesterday was that we put the current meta data proposal 
    > on our
    > TC's web site and ask for feedback until December, the 19th. We urther
    > agreed to discuss the feedback we receive in the conference call of 
    > December,
    > the 19th. There was no decission to continue the meta data work item
    > somewhere outside the OpenDocument TC.
    > 
    >  > must be done within the OASIS framework. I know the TC has several 
    > other very pressing issues to settle (accessibility, DRM,
    >  > formulas, etc.) so maybe the decision was made not to undertake this 
    > work item?
    > 
    > The TC's decission was to postpone the meta data discussion until we have
    > restructured the TC in a way that allows us to discuss the additional 
    > topics,
    > that have a higher priority for the moment, and to use the time to get
    > feedback for the proposal. There was no decission to cancel the the meta 
    > data
    > work item.
    > 
    > I therefore think that the TC is in agreement that the meta data work item
    > will be continued within the TC. Feedback to the TC's work is, as always,
    > welcome.
    > 
    > Best regards
    > 
    > Michael
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    >  >
    >  > Regards,
    >  >
    >  > Mary
    >  >
    >  >
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