Thanks, Duane, for looking into this.
Bob asked what the requirements were.
I don't think we have any. I'm always keeping my eyes open
for tools that can make our work easier, and when I saw this Adobe contribution
to OASIS, I thought it would be worth taking a look.
The tools we use today on this TC are
primary email and documents, a Wiki,and Kavi Groups for managing the meeting
attendance, document libraries, etc.
Where I think we feel the most pain
is in:
1) Issue tracking. At the level
of action items, it is a pain to track, from agenda to minutes to wiki,
etc.
2) Defect tracking. At the level
of the specification it is even harder, tracking public comments and SC34
feedback. We're doing it in a spreadsheet now, but having some dedicated
issue tracking system would be better
3) Meeting collaboration software. Especially
as the number of non-native English speakers increases, I'd like to have
a strong, online component to the meeting, where we can be looking at the
material we are discussing, allowing chats, etc.
Now given the above, there are many
solutions we can point to, including open source. However, from an
OASIS perspective, we need to use tools that they can host, so the content
of the TC's work can be reliably maintained, backed up, archived, etc.,
by OASIS, and that the IP pedigree of our work is preserved. So that
is why systems and services donated by member companies to OASIS are so
attractive
So none of this is urgent, and I don't
want to distract anyone from other tasks. But if you have ideas on
how we can do the above tasks more efficiently, certainly post your ideas.
-Rob
___________________________
Rob Weir
Software Architect
Workplace, Portal and Collaboration Software
IBM Software Group
email: robert_weir@us.ibm.com
phone: 1-978-399-7122
blog: http://www.robweir.com/blog/
Bob:
I just found out basically the same. Our company donated the software
with the sole purpose of helping TC’s with their work (not to get exposure
or market). We never anticipated all TC’s would use it and as an
ODF TC member, I am happy with whatever we decide (I’m not in sales so
I really have no interest in pushing software ;-)
It seems like that it is important for our editors to be able to use *nix.
As such, we should investigate other options if we find it necessary
to do joint visual editing with synchronization and other things like chat,
record, etc.
I agree that too much functionality gets in the way of communication. To
be realistic, the only thing I think the TC might benefit from at present
is the ability to jointly share one document and to jointly author on a
white board.
Cheers!
Duane
On 12/03/08 12:28 PM, "Bob Jolliffe" <bobj@dst.gov.za>
wrote:
Greetings
Looking at the system requirements (http://www.adobe.com/products/connect/productinfo/systemreqs/)
I am looking at this prospect with some trepidation. It seems that
on linux using firefox 1.5+ one can be a participant, but not a presenter
or author. This is an example of software which we generally try
to avoid as it soon becomes one of the "roadblock" applications
which limits our options around operating system migration and choice.
If Windows is a requirement for being a "first class" participant
in such conferences I think it should be strongly discouraged. Though
I do understand that Adobe has generously offered the software and would
like exposure for it.
Perhaps it makes sense to understand what the requirements (or nice to
haves) are first, before looking at what might be offered by a particular
tool. If the major requirement is collaborative editing then I find
google docs really useful (and pretty simple and bandwidth friendly).
I have played a bit with online collaboration tools going back to the mbone
vic/vat/wb stuff and the tcl groupkit developed in the 90's. Too
much functionality can get in the way of the communication.
Regards
Bob
Original Message -----
From: "Warren Turkal" <turkal@google.com>
To: "Duane Nickull" <dnickull@adobe.com>
Cc: "mary mcrae" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>, "robert
weir" <robert_weir@us.ibm.com>, office@lists.oasis-open.org,
"Patrick Durusau" <patrick@durusau.net>
Sent: 12 March 2008 07:19:06 PM
Subject: Re: [office] "Adobe donates meeting collaboration tool for
TC use"
Try Ubuntu Dapper or Gutsy. Really specific kernel version shouldn't
make a lick of difference. It's the version of X.org that really
matters. Those versions of Ubuntu should be the best test cases.
wt
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Duane Nickull <dnickull@adobe.com>
wrote:
>
> That is what I am looking into. I'm going to set up a
VMWare image on my
> Mac and try. What flavor are you running (build, kernel, browser).
>
> Duane
>
>
>
>
> On 12/03/08 9:57 AM, "Warren Turkal" <turkal@google.com>
wrote:
>
>
>
> But can I share a screen or application?
>
> wt
>
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Mary McRae <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
> wrote:
> > Hi Warren,
> >
> > Acrobat Connect is flash-based - as long as you
have a flash player
> installed in your browser you're all set. Anyone can view the demo
or read
> the tutorials available here:
> > http://www.adobe.com/resources/acrobatconnect/
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Mary
> >
> >
> >
> > >
Original Message-----
> > > From: Warren Turkal [mailto:turkal@google.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:31 PM
> > > To: robert_weir@us.ibm.com
> > > Cc: Duane Nickull; office@lists.oasis-open.org;
Patrick Durusau
> > > Subject: Re: [office] "Adobe donates meeting
collaboration tool for TC
> use"
> > >
> > > Does is support ODF as a file format? Does it
work with Linux? My
> > > workstation is running Linux.
> > >
> > > wt
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 8:04 AM, <robert_weir@us.ibm.com>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > OK.I think I get the gist of it from that
demo. Chat, video, shared
> > > > screens, documents, etc. We probably
wouldn't use it on every TC
> call,
> > > but
> > > > I can see it being useful for meetings
where we are reviewing or
> editing
> > > a
> > > > document, so we're all looking at the same
text and edits at the
> same
> > > time.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > -Rob
> > > >
> > > > ___________________________
> > > >
> > > > Rob Weir
> > > > Software Architect
> > > > Workplace, Portal and Collaboration
Software
> > > > IBM Software Group
> > > >
> > > > email: robert_weir@us.ibm.com
> > > > phone: 1-978-399-7122
> > > > blog: http://www.robweir.com/blog/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Duane Nickull <dnickull@adobe.com>
> > > >
> > > > 03/10/2008 07:27 PM
> > > >
> > > > To
> > > > Patrick Durusau <patrick@durusau.net>
> > > >
> > > > cc <robert_weir@us.ibm.com>, <office@lists.oasis-open.org>
> > > >
> > > > Subject POSSIBLE SPAM Re: [office] "Adobe
donates meeting
> collaboration
> > > tool
> > > > for TC use"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Actually, there is a demo/training on demand
here:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.adobecom/products/acrobatconnectpro/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Just hit the green button that says
"see the demo".
> > > >
> > > > Duane
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 09/03/08 3:55 PM, "Patrick
Durusau" <patrick@durusau.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Duane,
> > > >
> > > > Duane Nickull wrote:
> > > > > I can do a demo if you'd like.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > I would like to be included in the
demo.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Patrick
> > > >
> > > > > Duane
> > > > > Sent from my Blackberry. Sorry
for typos.
> > > > >
> > > > >