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A table:table-row can have both or any of the attributes
table:style-name and table:default-cell-style-name
They both seem to set the style of a table-cell in that row that doesn't
have its own style.

What's the difference?

Andreas
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Andreas J. Guelzow 

Andreas,

Andreas J. Guelzow wrote:
> A table:table-row can have both or any of the attributes
> table:style-name and table:default-cell-style-name
> They both seem to set the style of a table-cell in that row that doesn't
> have its own style.
>
>   
Is this in response to my note on Office-1566, 
table:default-cell-style-name?

The reason I ask is that the amended text that I have applied reads:

"Cells contained in a row without a table:style-name attribute value and 
that are defined by a 

On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 15:11 -0400, Patrick Durusau wrote:
> Andreas,
> 
> Andreas J. Guelzow wrote:
> > A table:table-row can have both or any of the attributes
> > table:style-name and table:default-cell-style-name
> > They both seem to set the style of a table-cell in that row that doesn't
> > have its own style.
> >
> >   
> Is this in response to my note on Office-1566, 
> table:default-cell-style-name?

It was inspired by it.

> 
> The reason I ask is that the amended text that I have applied reads:
> 
> "Cells contained in a row without a table:style-name attribute value and 
> that are defined by a 

Hi,

On Thursday, 2009-07-02 14:11:49 -0600, Andreas J. Guelzow wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 15:11 -0400, Patrick Durusau wrote:
> > Andreas J. Guelzow wrote:
> > > A table:table-row can have both or any of the attributes
> > > table:style-name and table:default-cell-style-name
> > > They both seem to set the style of a table-cell in that row that doesn't
> > > have its own style.
> > >
> > >   
> > Is this in response to my note on Office-1566, 
> > table:default-cell-style-name?
> 
> It was inspired by it.
> 
> > 
> > The reason I ask is that the amended text that I have applied reads:
> > 
> > "Cells contained in a row without a table:style-name attribute value and 
> > that are defined by a 

On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 13:27 +0200, Eike Rathke wrote:

> 
> As the table:default-cell-style-name cell attributes take precedence
> over those in table:style-name, the correct order would be
> 
> style given in table:table-cell
> style given as table:default-cell-style-name attribute of table:table-row
> style given as table:style-name attribute of table:table-row
> style given as table:default-cell-style-name attribute of table:table-column
> style given as default-style for table cells.
> 
> 
> > So I wonder about 2 things:
> > Why are there 2 attributes for table:table-row that do essentially the
> > same thing.
> 
> I hope this is clarified?

I still don't understand the difference between the two. In the list you
have quoted above, couldn't everything that is specified in
table:default-cell-style-name of table:table-row be given in
table:style-name of table:table-row instead? This still looks like
unnecessary duplication to me.

> 
> > Why are we jumping over the table level, ie. do not have
> > table:style-name or table:default-cell-style-name attributes for
> > table:table.
> 
> It isn't really needed. In fact, having the default styles at the
> columns (and/or rows) is an optimization to not have to write and read
> a style information for each cell in case an entire column is formatted
> identically. We could define that for the table level as well, but it
> wouldn't save much, maybe a few columns' attributes.

I would think it may save a huge number of column attributes. If the
column switch between two styles we now have to specify a style for
every column rather than just a default style and a style for every
second column.

Moreover, Gnumeric has a default style for each table. Currently this
cannot be saved in an ODF file.

Andreas  

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Andreas J. Guelzow 

Hi Andreas,

On Tuesday, 2009-07-07 08:47:41 -0600, Andreas J. Guelzow wrote:

> > style given as table:default-cell-style-name attribute of table:table-row
> > style given as table:style-name attribute of table:table-row
> 
> I still don't understand the difference between the two. In the list you
> have quoted above, couldn't everything that is specified in
> table:default-cell-style-name of table:table-row be given in
> table:style-name of table:table-row instead? This still looks like
> unnecessary duplication to me.

It seems the original intention was to have table:style-name name the
style that applies row-wide settings such as row height, that would not
be overridden by cell styles, and no cell styles. Apparently that wasn't
well specified and at least one implementation wrote cell styles to
table:style-name, so indeed we now have some sort of duplication.
A reading implementation will have to inspect both for cell styles,
a writing implementation should write cell styles with
table:default-cell-style-name.


> > > Why are we jumping over the table level, ie. do not have
> > > table:style-name or table:default-cell-style-name attributes for
> > > table:table.
> > 
> > It isn't really needed. In fact, having the default styles at the
> > columns (and/or rows) is an optimization to not have to write and read
> > a style information for each cell in case an entire column is formatted
> > identically. We could define that for the table level as well, but it
> > wouldn't save much, maybe a few columns' attributes.
> 
> I would think it may save a huge number of column attributes. If the
> column switch between two styles we now have to specify a style for
> every column rather than just a default style and a style for every
> second column.

Ok, if a large amount of columns of a sheet were formatted that way it
would save some.

> Moreover, Gnumeric has a default style for each table. Currently this
> cannot be saved in an ODF file.

I see. I guess we'll have to address that in ODF-Next.

  Eike

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