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Re: [office] Do you agree, that the list style of a listbelongs to the style markup of a document?

  • 1.  Re: [office] Do you agree, that the list style of a listbelongs to the style markup of a document?

    Posted 03-14-2007 14:24 
    Hi Bruce,

> Why would it make any sense for list styles to behave differently than 
> any other style?

All I say is that in current Office applications and formats they do :-)

I guess you reached the bottom line of this. You can generate two questions:
a) Why would it make any sense for list styles to behave differently than any other style?
b) Why would it make any sense for list styles to behave like any other style?

I guess we both have an understanding why we would say "makes no sense" to a). 

The problem I have is that I am also saying that it wrt. to e.g. interop with other file formats it makes no sense for
ODF to treat list styles like any other style.

So I come to the conclusion that
a) makes no sense (with my desinger hat on)
b) makse no sense (with my interop hat on)

Then you have to make a decision whats more important to your customers: design or interop.

I really appreciate Oliver's/Michael's and Thomas' strong desire for design. But I somehow feel that somebody has to
represent the interop desire of the ODF users too.

I hope you can understand my dilemma.

~Florian

P.S.
Thanks so much for your metadata work!

>>> Bruce D'Arcus


  • 2.  Re: [office] Do you agree, that the list style of a list belongs to the style markup of a document?

    Posted 03-14-2007 14:57 
    On Wednesday 14 March 2007 15:23, Florian Reuter wrote:
> Then you have to make a decision whats more important to your customers:
> design or interop.
>
> I really appreciate Oliver's/Michael's and Thomas' strong desire for
> design. But I somehow feel that somebody has to represent the interop
> desire of the ODF users too.

I think David addressed this point very well.
There is no problem as there is a good mapping possible from those other 
formats to the ODF format. Simply create a new (temporary) style for each 
list so the user in an ODF app will be able to change the style of list1 and 
see only list1 change.

If you see an interop problem; give a usecase and tell us where it goes wrong. 
We can then decide if its worth it throwing the baby out.

Handwaving is not acceptable :)
-- 
Thomas Zander


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