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  • 1.  Re: [office] Content Regions in ODF

    Posted 05-09-2008 14:47 
    Hi Rob,

it would really help if you would provide some of your ideas instead of questions. I'm really trying to understand your point.

E.g. what do you mean with: Think div and CSS?

Thanks a lot,

~Florian


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  • 2.  Re: [office] Content Regions in ODF

    Posted 05-09-2008 16:35 

    Sorry, I thought the analogy was clear.
 Separate structure from semantics.  Bob's example of a generic
<marker> element is one approach to this.  This allows for generic
processing.

    -Rob



    

    

    
"Florian Reuter"
<freuter@novell.com> 

    05/09/2008 10:46 AM

    		

    

    


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    Hi Rob,

    
it would really help if you would provide some of your ideas instead of
questions. I'm really trying to understand your point.

    
E.g. what do you mean with: Think div and CSS?

    
Thanks a lot,

    
~Florian


    
>>> <robert_weir@us.ibm.com> 05/09/08 4:21 PM >>>
    
For example, we could have a single mechanism for noting the structure
of
    
begin/end or arbitrary content that doesn't follow a simple nesting model.
    
 And then have a way of associating semantics with it.

    
The way we have it now seems unfactored.   Is there a way we can better
    
express the structure of the things that Patrick listed with a single
    
mechanism, and then give them semantics with a common mechanism. Think
div
    
and CSS.

    
Especially since this type of structure seems core to Word's run-oriented
    
text model, I expect we'll see more and more requests for adding features
    
like this in the future.  So getting the core structural aspect of
it
    
defined will help us integrate future related proposals as well.

    
-Rob




    
"Florian Reuter" <freuter@novell.com>
    
05/09/2008 07:39 AM

    
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Hi,

    
in terms of a constructive discussion it would really be great to
    
understand not only what you don't want but also what you want.

    
You say its unnecessary. Can you explain why? What alternative encoding
do
    
you have in mind?

    
So where do you think we should invest our good money ;-)

    
It would really be great to understand the alternatives 'cause I'm not
a
    
big fan the start-/end- stuff either but I'm not aware of  better
    
alternatives...

    
Thanks very much,

    
~Florian


    
>>> Bob Jolliffe <bobj@dst.gov.za> 05/08/08 8:05 PM >>>
    
Absolutely agree with the sentiment.  I don't know how we orginally
got
    
into this -start -end convention, but it is really ugly and unnecessarily.
    
 Also agree it is not an odf 1.2 issue, but let us at least flag it as
    
undesirable and avoid pouring good money after bad.

    
Regards
    
Bob

    

    
                                                
    
					
                                                    

        
                                                
				
    
                                                
    
                                                    
                                                        
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