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Re: [office] Proposal for modification of preview image description

  • 1.  Re: [office] Proposal for modification of preview image description

    Posted 07-31-2007 19:50
    On Tuesday 31 July 2007 21:11:13 Patrick wrote:
    > > Sorry, your logic is lost on me. :(
    
    > No, because the 1 size preview is exactly what I got from the other
    > user. He made a choice that I cannot change.
    
    Ah, in that case I agree with you. One thing that is relevant is a small 
    reversal of roles; the embedded thumbnail size will never be the choice 
    of the user *receiving* the document.  Irrelevant of the wording of the 
    spec.
    Instead, it will always be defined by the writing ODF implementation.
    
    So, we are talking about what your friend would write out; would we change 
    the spec. If he is on a Windows machine it might be a 32x32 image, when 
    he is on KDE it might be a 128x128 image.  And naturally when you get 
    that document you have to live with whatever the original authors 
    application wrote.
    So, as you dislike being stuck with what the other user decided, we agree 
    that letting that user have a choice is a bad thing.
    
    And this is exactly why having a high-res thumb requirement is a good 
    idea; so the other user can't decide on a low-res one for you which you 
    are stuck with.
    -- 
    Thomas Zander
    


  • 2.  Re: [office] Proposal for modification of preview image description

    Posted 07-31-2007 20:12
    Thomas,
    
    Thomas Zander wrote:
    > On Tuesday 31 July 2007 21:11:13 Patrick wrote:
    >   
    >>> Sorry, your logic is lost on me. :(
    >>>       
    >
    >   
    >> No, because the 1 size preview is exactly what I got from the other
    >> user. He made a choice that I cannot change.
    >>     
    >
    > Ah, in that case I agree with you. One thing that is relevant is a small 
    > reversal of roles; the embedded thumbnail size will never be the choice 
    > of the user *receiving* the document.  Irrelevant of the wording of the 
    > spec.
    > Instead, it will always be defined by the writing ODF implementation.
    >
    > So, we are talking about what your friend would write out; would we change 
    > the spec. If he is on a Windows machine it might be a 32x32 image, when 
    > he is on KDE it might be a 128x128 image.  And naturally when you get 
    > that document you have to live with whatever the original authors 
    > application wrote.
    > So, as you dislike being stuck with what the other user decided, we agree 
    > that letting that user have a choice is a bad thing.
    >
    > And this is exactly why having a high-res thumb requirement is a good 
    > idea; so the other user can't decide on a low-res one for you which you 
    > are stuck with.
    >   
    Err, ok, but the question is how "high-res" is sufficient? For some 
    purposes, I may prefer a very "high-res" thumbnail, say 256x256. If we 
    require, which is what I read the prior language as doing, exactly 
    128x128, etc., then I don't have that as an option.
    
    What I think you are arguing against is complete freedom (what I 
    proposed) which would allow users to pick a resolution that is too low 
    to be useful.
    
    What I was reacting to was defining only one possible value.
    
    Perhaps a compromise? Not less than 128x128 in PNG and dropping the 
    other requirements? Sets a lower boundary.
    
    Hope you are having a great day!
    
    Patrick
    
    -- 
    Patrick Durusau
    patrick@durusau.net
    Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34
    Acting Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps)
    Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)
    Co-Editor, OpenDocument Format (OASIS, ISO/IEC 26300)