OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications (OpenDocument) TC

Hello,

We can't seem to find a way to refer to a user-defined character style (family=text)
from a user-defined paragraph style (family=paragraph)...

I am surprised, because I thought this was an obvious use case for user-defined character styles;
you would define "arial 20 bold" as character style "big" and then use it in the paragraph style
"big heading".
Is there a reason for not allowing this? (I am asking from a user-experience point of view
as well as from a file-format point of view)
If not, what about adding a style:text-style-name attribute to style:style with family=paragraph?

I guess it would mean replacing the current style-style-content for family=paragraph with something like this (untested) :



I was wondering about forcing to either refer to a named character style or define text properties in the paragraph style,
but I guess that being able to do both at the same time could be useful too.

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On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 7:09 AM, David Faure 

Warren:


Did you mean version 1.2 and greater but less than 2.0?


Duane



On 02/04/08 9:17 AM, "Warren Turkal" <turkal@google.com> wrote:


For ODF 2.0+, it might make sense to only allow character properties

in a paragraph style by referring to a named character style. For 1.x,

where x>=2, we should allow both for backward compatibility, though.


wt



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On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Duane Nickull 

On Wednesday 02 April 2008, Warren Turkal wrote:
> For ODF 2.0+, it might make sense to only allow character properties
> in a paragraph style by referring to a named character style.

This was definitely not my intention (breaking compatibility).
I only meant: while adding the "referring to a named character style" feature,
we could either:
1) say that when doing that, no text-properties are allowed (they all come from the character style)
2) or say that it's allowed to have both text-style-name="..." and 

Hello, sorry that I missed again the call last Monday -- too many things to handle at the same time.
I won't be able to participate in the next call either, but I'll be there on June 23...

On Wednesday 02 April 2008, David Faure wrote:
> We can't seem to find a way to refer to a user-defined character style (family=text)
> from a user-defined paragraph style (family=paragraph)...
> 
> I am surprised, because I thought this was an obvious use case for user-defined character styles;
> you would define "arial 20 bold" as character style "big" and then use it in the paragraph style
> "big heading".
> Is there a reason for not allowing this? (I am asking from a user-experience point of view
> as well as from a file-format point of view)

This question was mainly directed at the authors of other office suites, but hasn't really received
any answer IIRC. What do you think about the concept of user-defined character styles,
and about including it in ODF? I am really surprised it's not part of ODF already :-)

Or is this proposal already at the stage of "no objections therefore it will be voted upon at
the next call"? :-)

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