OASIS Web Services Calendar (WS-Calendar) TC

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  • 1.  Defining the Interval - critical

    Posted 05-11-2011 15:11
    Table 1-3 defines Interval as follows   The Interval is a single Duration derived from the common calendar Components as defined in iCalendar ( [RFC5545] ) and refined in [XCAL] . In Calendar systems, it is similar to the Component VTODO, but the constraints and conformance are different.   New verbiage, which should go somewhere   Note: An Interval is part of a Sequence. An entire sequence can be scheduled by scheduling a single Interval in a sequence. A Sequence can be scheduled multiple times through repeated reference by different Gluons. For this reason, of the three primary temporal elements (dtStart, dtEnd, and Duration) in a component, the Duration has primacy in Intervals. Within a Sequence, a maximum of a single Interval MAY have a dtStart or a dtEnd.   (where do we put this?)   If we agree to this language, many Jira comments can be addressed.   tc “The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place.” – George Bernard Shaw. Toby Considine TC9, Inc TC Chair: oBIX & WS-Calendar TC Editor: EMIX, EnergyInterop U.S. National Inst. of Standards and Tech. Smart Grid Architecture Committee    Email: Toby.Considine@gmail.com Phone: (919)619-2104 http://www.tcnine.com/ blog: www.NewDaedalus.com    


  • 2.  Re: [ws-calendar] Defining the Interval - critical

    Posted 05-11-2011 16:38
    This is a great clarification, and clears up a number of misunderstandings. Let's do it. I suggest that this goes earlier rather than later - in PR02 I'd put it at the start of section 3 around line 310.  And needs the very high level of sequence there as well. (we also need to fix the recording and exchanging event information on line 310 per comments, while I'm looking there. Thanks! bill -- William Cox Email: wtcox@CoxSoftwareArchitects.com Web: http://www.CoxSoftwareArchitects.com +1 862 485 3696 mobile +1 908 277 3460 fax On 5/11/11 11:10 AM, Toby Considine wrote: 013b01cc0fed$984471f0$c8cd55d0$@gmail.com type= cite > Table 1-3 defines Interval as follows   The Interval is a single Duration derived from the common calendar Components as defined in iCalendar ( [RFC5545] ) and refined in [XCAL] . In Calendar systems, it is similar to the Component VTODO, but the constraints and conformance are different.   New verbiage, which should go somewhere   Note: An Interval is part of a Sequence. An entire sequence can be scheduled by scheduling a single Interval in a sequence. A Sequence can be scheduled multiple times through repeated reference by different Gluons. For this reason, of the three primary temporal elements (dtStart, dtEnd, and Duration) in a component, the Duration has primacy in Intervals. Within a Sequence, a maximum of a single Interval MAY have a dtStart or a dtEnd.   (where do we put this?)   If we agree to this language, many Jira comments can be addressed.   tc “The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place.” – George Bernard Shaw. Toby Considine TC9, Inc TC Chair: oBIX & WS-Calendar TC Editor: EMIX, EnergyInterop U.S. National Inst. of Standards and Tech. Smart Grid Architecture Committee    Email: Toby.Considine@gmail.com Phone: (919)619-2104 http://www.tcnine.com/ blog: www.NewDaedalus.com    


  • 3.  RE: [ws-calendar] Defining the Interval - critical

    Posted 05-13-2011 15:50
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    Hi,   2 remarks: -           This change has the disadvantage of losing the reference to iCal/xCal. Shouldn’t we add somewhere a reference table for mapping of iCal/xCal and WS-Calendar ? I cannot find it, maybe it is already there ? -           Is it 100% true that an interval is part of a sequence. Is it forbidden to bind an interval directly to a gluon, without an intermediate Sequence element ?   Regards   Benoît LEPEUPLE Product Manager ARC Informatique   2 avenue de la cristallerie - 92310  SEVRES  - FRANCE Tel: +33 1 41 14 36 00 - Mobile: +33 6 87 80 20 43  Email : b.lepeuple@arcinfo.com   www.pcvuesolutions.com     De : Toby Considine [mailto:tobyconsidine@gmail.com] De la part de Toby Considine Envoyé : mercredi 11 mai 2011 17:11 À : ws-calendar@lists.oasis-open.org Objet : [ws-calendar] Defining the Interval - critical   Table 1-3 defines Interval as follows   The Interval is a single Duration derived from the common calendar Components as defined in iCalendar ( [RFC5545] ) and refined in [XCAL] . In Calendar systems, it is similar to the Component VTODO, but the constraints and conformance are different.   New verbiage, which should go somewhere   Note: An Interval is part of a Sequence. An entire sequence can be scheduled by scheduling a single Interval in a sequence. A Sequence can be scheduled multiple times through repeated reference by different Gluons. For this reason, of the three primary temporal elements (dtStart, dtEnd, and Duration) in a component, the Duration has primacy in Intervals. Within a Sequence, a maximum of a single Interval MAY have a dtStart or a dtEnd.   (where do we put this?)   If we agree to this language, many Jira comments can be addressed.   tc “The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place.” – George Bernard Shaw. Toby Considine TC9, Inc TC Chair: oBIX & WS-Calendar TC Editor: EMIX, EnergyInterop U.S. National Inst. of Standards and Tech. Smart Grid Architecture Committee    Email: Toby.Considine@gmail.com Phone: (919)619-2104 http://www.tcnine.com/ blog: www.NewDaedalus.com    


  • 4.  RE: [ws-calendar] Defining the Interval - critical

    Posted 05-13-2011 15:55
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    Well, a Sequence is a virtual object only, with 1-N intervals and 0-N Gluons.   So binding a gluon to an interval == binding a gluon to a sequence.   tc     "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster, and if you stare long into an abyss, the abyss also stares into you."   - Fredrich Nietzche Toby Considine TC9, Inc TC Chair: oBIX & WS-Calendar TC Editor: EMIX, EnergyInterop U.S. National Inst. of Standards and Tech. Smart Grid Architecture Committee    Email: Toby.Considine@gmail.com Phone: (919)619-2104 http://www.tcnine.com/ blog: www.NewDaedalus.com     From: Benoît Lepeuple [mailto:b.lepeuple@arcinfo.com] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 11:49 AM To: Toby.Considine@gmail.com; ws-calendar@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: [ws-calendar] Defining the Interval - critical   Hi,   2 remarks: -           This change has the disadvantage of losing the reference to iCal/xCal. Shouldn’t we add somewhere a reference table for mapping of iCal/xCal and WS-Calendar ? I cannot find it, maybe it is already there ? -           Is it 100% true that an interval is part of a sequence. Is it forbidden to bind an interval directly to a gluon, without an intermediate Sequence element ?   Regards   Benoît LEPEUPLE Product Manager ARC Informatique   2 avenue de la cristallerie - 92310  SEVRES  - FRANCE Tel: +33 1 41 14 36 00 - Mobile: +33 6 87 80 20 43  Email : b.lepeuple@arcinfo.com   www.pcvuesolutions.com     De : Toby Considine [mailto:tobyconsidine@gmail.com] De la part de Toby Considine Envoyé : mercredi 11 mai 2011 17:11 À : ws-calendar@lists.oasis-open.org Objet : [ws-calendar] Defining the Interval - critical   Table 1-3 defines Interval as follows   The Interval is a single Duration derived from the common calendar Components as defined in iCalendar ( [RFC5545] ) and refined in [XCAL] . In Calendar systems, it is similar to the Component VTODO, but the constraints and conformance are different.   New verbiage, which should go somewhere   Note: An Interval is part of a Sequence. An entire sequence can be scheduled by scheduling a single Interval in a sequence. A Sequence can be scheduled multiple times through repeated reference by different Gluons. For this reason, of the three primary temporal elements (dtStart, dtEnd, and Duration) in a component, the Duration has primacy in Intervals. Within a Sequence, a maximum of a single Interval MAY have a dtStart or a dtEnd.   (where do we put this?)   If we agree to this language, many Jira comments can be addressed.   tc “The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place.” – George Bernard Shaw. Toby Considine TC9, Inc TC Chair: oBIX & WS-Calendar TC Editor: EMIX, EnergyInterop U.S. National Inst. of Standards and Tech. Smart Grid Architecture Committee    Email: Toby.Considine@gmail.com Phone: (919)619-2104 http://www.tcnine.com/ blog: www.NewDaedalus.com    


  • 5.  RE: [ws-calendar] Defining the Interval - critical

    Posted 05-13-2011 16:06
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    Must the minimal object   be a single interval without a gluon or could it be a single gluon without an interval?   Edward G. Cazalet, Ph.D. 101 First Street, Suite 552 Los Altos, CA 94022 650-949-5274 cell: 408-621-2772 ed@cazalet.com www.cazalet.com   From: Toby Considine [mailto:tobyconsidine@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Toby Considine Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 8:55 AM To: 'Benoît Lepeuple'; Toby.Considine@gmail.com; ws-calendar@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: [ws-calendar] Defining the Interval - critical   Well, a Sequence is a virtual object only, with 1-N intervals and 0-N Gluons.   So binding a gluon to an interval == binding a gluon to a sequence.   tc     "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster, and if you stare long into an abyss, the abyss also stares into you."   - Fredrich Nietzche Toby Considine TC9, Inc TC Chair: oBIX & WS-Calendar TC Editor: EMIX, EnergyInterop U.S. National Inst. of Standards and Tech. Smart Grid Architecture Committee    Email: Toby.Considine@gmail.com Phone: (919)619-2104 http://www.tcnine.com/ blog: www.NewDaedalus.com     From: Benoît Lepeuple [mailto:b.lepeuple@arcinfo.com] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 11:49 AM To: Toby.Considine@gmail.com; ws-calendar@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: RE: [ws-calendar] Defining the Interval - critical   Hi,   2 remarks: -         This change has the disadvantage of losing the reference to iCal/xCal. Shouldn’t we add somewhere a reference table for mapping of iCal/xCal and WS-Calendar ? I cannot find it, maybe it is already there ? -         Is it 100% true that an interval is part of a sequence. Is it forbidden to bind an interval directly to a gluon, without an intermediate Sequence element ?   Regards   Benoît LEPEUPLE Product Manager ARC Informatique   2 avenue de la cristallerie - 92310  SEVRES  - FRANCE Tel: +33 1 41 14 36 00 - Mobile: +33 6 87 80 20 43  Email : b.lepeuple@arcinfo.com   www.pcvuesolutions.com     De : Toby Considine [mailto:tobyconsidine@gmail.com] De la part de Toby Considine Envoyé : mercredi 11 mai 2011 17:11 À : ws-calendar@lists.oasis-open.org Objet : [ws-calendar] Defining the Interval - critical   Table 1-3 defines Interval as follows   The Interval is a single Duration derived from the common calendar Components as defined in iCalendar ( [RFC5545] ) and refined in [XCAL] . In Calendar systems, it is similar to the Component VTODO, but the constraints and conformance are different.   New verbiage, which should go somewhere   Note: An Interval is part of a Sequence. An entire sequence can be scheduled by scheduling a single Interval in a sequence. A Sequence can be scheduled multiple times through repeated reference by different Gluons. For this reason, of the three primary temporal elements (dtStart, dtEnd, and Duration) in a component, the Duration has primacy in Intervals. Within a Sequence, a maximum of a single Interval MAY have a dtStart or a dtEnd.   (where do we put this?)   If we agree to this language, many Jira comments can be addressed.   tc “The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place.” – George Bernard Shaw. Toby Considine TC9, Inc TC Chair: oBIX & WS-Calendar TC Editor: EMIX, EnergyInterop U.S. National Inst. of Standards and Tech. Smart Grid Architecture Committee    Email: Toby.Considine@gmail.com Phone: (919)619-2104 http://www.tcnine.com/ blog: www.NewDaedalus.com