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Subject: Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 20|21 February 2006
MINUTES OF PACIFIC UBL TC MEETING
00H30 - 02H30 UTC TUESDAY 21 FEBRUARY 2006
ATTENDANCE
Jon Bosak (chair)
Stephen Green
G. Ken Holman
Tim McGrath (vice chair)
Andy Schoka
Sylvia Webb
STANDING ITEMS
Additions to the calendar:
http://ibiblio.org/bosak/ubl/calendar.htm
8 March in Hong Kong: Forum on electronic transaction
development (Thomas Lee, Tim McGrath)
Liaison report: ebBP TC
SG: ebBP TC is ok with breaking out the process definitions
for UBL 2.0 as a separate deliverable. (See last week's
Pacific call.)
Subcommittee report: SBSC
SG: 1.0 SBS public review is now finished. No comments were
received. We may need to make minor editorial changes to
the BPSS definitions.
JB: Time to go to committee spec.
SG: Have now produced two separate packages for UBL 2 SBS
and am waiting for finishing touches to the BPSS definition
and CPA package from Sacha Schlegel.
JB: Sacha must become a TC member to join the SBSC.
SG: It's time to put the 2.0 SBS into intial public review.
AS: Does the SBS include transport?
SG: No, that would be out of scope for a [procurement
oriented] subset. We could make another subset by taking
the SBS and adding to it the elements that transport would
need, using the same methodology.
AS/SG/TM: Let's call the current SBS "UBL 1.0 SBS for
procurement" and create a "UBL 2.0 SBS for procurement" and
a "UBL 2.0 SBS for export."
ACTION: TM to develop a preliminary project plan for
integrating the SBS with the 2.0 package and report back
2/28.
Liaison report: UN/CEFACT
JB: Call scheduled for 2/23. We need to know CEFACT's plan
for integrating UBL as a CEFACT specification into the ODP
process.
TM: CEFACT is apparently trying to deal with ODP-related
issues separate from UBL.
JB: Expect to learn more about this 2/23.
Subcommittee report: HISC
GKH: Denmark not in the meeting last week, so could not
proceed. We need sample instances to demonstrate formatting
specifications. We did get an Order sample from SG, but we
need at least the other seven [in the 1.0 set]. We did get
a list of doc types of interest to dk in an HISC posting.
Team report: Code Lists
GKH: Have just posted what I think are the February
deliverables for Code Lists, including lines 5 and 11 on the
support materials schedule using the January data models.
The support schedule is missing line items for (1) code list
contributions to NDR and (2) the UBL specification of
genericode 0.3. GKH is the only responsible party for lines
5 and 11, both of which were delivered today. The missing
NDR contributions belong to TonyC and MartyB; the missing
line item for the formalization of gc 0.3 belongs to TonyC.
Ken Sall has presented on this code list methodology at
SAIC, and others outside of UBL are interested as well. The
TC should review the methodology just posted. I'm now
stepping away from CL and moving on to HISC.
JB: Please express our heartfelt thanks to Kathryn for
supporting you in this work.
Subcommittee report: PSC, TSC
TM: The spreadsheets in the PRD have invalidly populated
columns for SBS on the right; these will be removed for
final publication. They will still be in the spreadsheets
included in the SBS package.
Review of Atlantic call
SW: MG's quote of the statement regarding ATG2 UDT arrived
at in Manhattan confirms my initial impression. Now we need
UBL rules for creation of UDT datatypes and QDT, that is,
rules to implement the UDT. Once you import the schema,
what do you do with it? Lacking rules, GEFEG can create a
workaround, but it will require considerable programming,
and we can't guarantee to meet the schedule. ... These are
rules that were originally in UBL 1.0 NDR but were taken out
when we decided to use ATG2 UDT; now that we've decided not
to use the ATG2 methodology, those rules need to be
replaced.
ACTION: SW to identify the 1.0 rules corresponding to the
ones that need to be put into 2.0 NDR in time for this
week's Atlantic call.
Schedule review
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200602/msg00066.html
AS: What's the meaning of the continuation at the end of the
initial 2.0 public review?
JB: It means that we are accepting input from UN/CEFACT TBG1
and TBG3 following the meeting in Vancouver.
TG: We expect that input to be informal resulting from
interactions at the meeting.
AS: What about issues that are not specifically about
procurement or transport content?
TM: Those become general issues for the TC.
Issues review
http://www.eccnet.com/UniversalBusinessLanguage/IssuesList.xml
JB: What do we have in mind for this standing item?
TM: We should use it to ask whether there are
non-domain-specific issues discovered by the SCs that should
be added to the issues list.
MEETINGS DURING THE UN/CEFACT FORUM
From the Atlantic call 2006.02.08:
JB: (Regarding meetings during the March UN/CEFACT Forum)
Atlantic calls 3/8, 3/15, and 3/22 will occur as scheduled
and will be chaired by MC if JB and TM are not available.
We may cancel the Pacific calls.
Discussion: The weeks of 3/7, 3/13, and 3/22 are not good for
most regular Pacific call participants.
AGREED: We will not hold Pacific TC calls the weeks of 3/7,
3/13, and 3/22. We will hold Atlantic TC calls those weeks (as
agreed above) but will designate those as "work sessions"
rather than official TC meetings since people won't have an
opportunity to dial in to the Pacific calls to maintain voting
membership.
Jon Bosak
Chair, OASIS UBL TC
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