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  • 1.  NDR question regarding order of BBIEs and ASBIEs in ABIEs

    Posted 06-27-2008 00:22
    Hi folks,
    
    I must have brought up this NDR question either face-to-face or in a 
    call, because I cannot find record of this in the mail list 
    archives.  Or I haven't brought it up and I thought I had.  Either 
    way, I've forgotten (or didn't know) the answer.
    
    I note in our schema generation that in all ABIEs the sequence of 
    constituent elements orders all BBIEs before all ASBIEs.
    
    Is this an explicit rule?  If so, I can't find it.  If not, do we 
    need to add this in order to reflect the current state of 
    schemas?  I'm anticipating in any minor version we will be 
    maintaining this convention in the reconstituted schemas.
    
    Thanks for your guidance!
    
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ken
    
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  • 2.  Re: [ubl] NDR question regarding order of BBIEs and ASBIEs inABIEs

    Posted 06-27-2008 07:01
    Hi Ken
    
    I believe the rule is GXS1 (  
    http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.0/doc/ndr/NDR-checklist.pdf )
    
    Best regards
    -- 
    Stephen D. Green
    
    Partner
    SystML, http://www.systml.co.uk
    Tel: +44 (0) 117 9541606
    
    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew+22:37 .. and voice
    
    
    
    Quoting "G. Ken Holman" 


  • 3.  Re: [ubl] NDR question regarding order of BBIEs and ASBIEs inABIEs

    Posted 06-27-2008 11:01
    Oops, sorry, I think I misunderstood the question.
    Rereading it I realise you mean the fact that in a document
    or ABIE we have first all the BBIEs then all the ASBIEs (in
    *model* that is and therefore in schema).
    
    This is a modelling issue, not a schema design one so really
    the NDR is not the place for it.
    
    I don't think there is a hard and fast rule since it could
    be that an ABIE needs to be extended with a BBIE and if the
    old concepts of only extending by adding to the end to
    preserve the previous sequence is followed then the BBIE
    would have to follow the previous BBIEs and ASBIEs.
    
    -- 
    Stephen D. Green
    
    Partner
    SystML, http://www.systml.co.uk
    Tel: +44 (0) 117 9541606
    
    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew+22:37 .. and voice
    
    
    
    Quoting stephen.green@systml.co.uk:
    
    > Hi Ken
    >
    > I believe the rule is GXS1 (
    > http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.0/doc/ndr/NDR-checklist.pdf )
    >
    > Best regards
    > -- 
    > Stephen D. Green
    >
    > Partner
    > SystML, http://www.systml.co.uk
    > Tel: +44 (0) 117 9541606
    >
    > http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew+22:37 .. and voice
    >
    >
    >
    > Quoting "G. Ken Holman" 


  • 4.  Re: [ubl] NDR question regarding order of BBIEs and ASBIEs in ABIEs

    Posted 06-27-2008 11:40
    At 2008-06-27 05:00 -0600, stephen.green@systml.co.uk wrote:
    >Oops, sorry, I think I misunderstood the question.
    >Rereading it I realise you mean the fact that in a document
    >or ABIE we have first all the BBIEs then all the ASBIEs (in
    >*model* that is and therefore in schema).
    >
    >This is a modelling issue, not a schema design one so really
    >the NDR is not the place for it.
    >
    >I don't think there is a hard and fast rule since it could
    >be that an ABIE needs to be extended with a BBIE and if the
    >old concepts of only extending by adding to the end to
    >preserve the previous sequence is followed then the BBIE
    >would have to follow the previous BBIEs and ASBIEs.
    
    That is exactly my point.  We are reconstituting schemas from revised 
    models for our minor versions.  If there is an NDR that orders BBIEs 
    before ASBIEs, then we cannot even try to use