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Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 25 June 2008

  • 1.  Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 25 June 2008

    Posted 06-26-2008 15:57
    MINUTES OF ATLANTIC UBL TC MEETING
    WEDNESDAY 25 JUNE 2008
    
    ATTENDANCE
    
       Peter Borresen
       Jon Bosak (chair)
       Anne Hendry (guest, OASIS application pending)
       Zarella Rendon
    
    STANDING ITEMS
    
       Additions to the calendar:
          http://ubl.xml.org/events
    
          PLB: CEN/ISSS BII Working Group 1 meeting, 9-10 September in
          Turin; CEN/ISSS BII meeting, 11-12 September in Turin.  The
          rest of the BII schedule should be set by the first week in
          July, at which time we should be able to revise the UBL
          schedule accordingly.
    
       Review of Pacific call
    
          JB: The DELSC is now established, with web page and mailing
          list up and running.  Every OASIS business expert fluent in
          German is invited to participate; contact Karsten Tolle
          (tolle at dbis.cs.uni-frankfurt.de) to join.
    
          ACTION: PLB to invite BII members from Germany and Austria
          to participate.
    
          No other comments on the Pacific call minutes.
    
       Support page maintenance
    
          No submissions this week.  Note that this is being
          transitioned to ubl.xml.org.
    
       Financial Information Requirements Task Group
    
          JB: From the Pacific minutes: "Stig Korsgaard of the Danish
          Bankers Association informs us that a staff person will be
          assigned to FIRTG at the request of the Danish government."
    
    CUSTOMIZATION GUIDELINES
    
       JB: Haven't heard back yet from the authors.
    
    UNTDED ROAD MAP SURVEY
    
       See
    
          http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200806/msg00015.html
    
       From Pacific minutes:
    
          "ACTION: The TC to study the draft (see URL above) and be
          ready to discuss in next week's Pacific and Atlantic calls
          with the objective of agreeing on a TC response to the
          questionnaire."
    
       AH: Do we have a representative to the UNTDED work going
       forward?
    
       JB: No, though I'm sure that one would be appreciated if anyone
       wants to volunteer.
    
    UBL 2.0 NDR EDITORIAL REVIEW
    
       A work session has been scheduled for next Atlantic call (2
       July).
    
          ACTION: JB to request new PDF from BH.
    
       We need to add a section on code list metadata; see
    
          http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200803/msg00001.html
    
    2008 TC MEETING SCHEDULE
    
       RESERVE HOTEL ROOM NOW FOR AUGUST MEETING IN MONTR�AL.  You can
       always cancel later.
    
       Planned attendance so far:
    
          JB: Europa
          MC: Europa
          ZR: Marriott
          GKH: Residence Inn
          AH: with MC if able to attend
          BH: with ZR if able to attend
    
       PLB: Will attend to work on schematron rules with GKH.
    
       JB: We should aim to complete a first draft of the
       Customization Guidelines at this meeting.
    
    TC CONCALL SCHEDULE
    
       See Pacific minutes.
    
    OTHER BUSINESS
    
       PLB: BII WG2 (convergence) editor has been assigned to
       participate in TBG17.
    
       JB: See Pacific minutes of 17 June.
    
       PLB: There is still a lot of concern that the addition of
       eTendering documents in UBL 2.1 somehow violates the agreement
       we reached with UN/CEFACT in 2006.  Please clarify in the
       minutes.
    
       JB: The agreement arrived at 28 March 2006 reads as follows:
    
          Consistent with the Cooperation Agreement between OASIS and
          UN/CEFACT of June 2005:
    
          1. UN/CEFACT recognizes UBL 2 as appropriate
             first-generation XML documents for eBusiness.
    
          2. For OASIS and UN/CEFACT:
    
             (a) future UN/CEFACT deliverables constitute the upgrade
                 path for UBL, and
    
             (b) the maintenance of UBL 2 remains with the OASIS UBL
                 TC.
    
          3. In the expectation that UN/CEFACT will produce its own
             integrated set of XML schemas within a period of three
             years, OASIS will produce no further major versions of
             UBL past UBL 2.
    
          4. OASIS will grant UN/CEFACT a perpetual, irrevocable
             license to create derivative works based on UBL.
    
       There are several important things to note here.
    
        - The agreement specifically entitles the UBL TC to continue
          to maintain UBL 2.  "Maintainance" includes the addition of
          new data items to meet new requirements.  Document types are
          data items.  This was made very clear in negotiations with
          the UN/CEFACT Bureau leading up to adoption of the
          agreement.
    
        - "UBL 2" means *all* versions of UBL 2: 2.1, 2.2, ...  This
          was made very clear in negotiations with the UN/CEFACT
          Bureau leading up to adoption of the agreement.
    
        - The agreement binds OASIS to issue no further *major*
          versions of UBL during the three-year window we gave
          UN/CEFACT to come up with a suitable replacement for UBL 2.
          The meaning of "major version" is specified in both the UBL
          Naming and Design Rules and in the then current (and still
          current) UN/CEFACT Naming and Design Rules (not surprising,
          since the UN/CEFACT version copied the UBL rule).  Put
          simply, a major version is one that breaks backward
          compatibility with the previous major version.  Nothing we
          intend to do in UBL 2.1 will break backward compatibility
          with UBL 2.0.  According to both the UBL and the UN/CEFACT
          definitions of "major version," we will not be issuing a new
          major version and therefore are not in any way breaking the
          agreement we reached with UN/CEFACT.  The distinction
          between major and minor versions was made perfectly clear in
          negotiations with the UN/CEFACT Bureau leading up to
          adoption of the agreement.
    
        - While the considerations just listed are sufficient to
          demonstrate that we are adhering to both the letter and the
          intent of the agreement, the fact is that the three-year
          window during which we agreed to issue no further major
          versions of UBL will have expired by the time we issue UBL
          2.1 as an OASIS Standard in 2Q2009.  In reality, therefore,
          we would be completely within the terms of the agreement
          even if UBL 2.1 *were* a major version release -- which it
          is not.
    
    Jon Bosak
    Chair, OASIS UBL TC