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    Posted 03-11-2004 19:18
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    Subject: Re: [ubl] A Codelist Issue


    Further on substiutionGroups:
    
    Is the reason for using a substitutionGroup and an abstract element so that
    one can change the enumerations without needing to change the namespace?
    
    I was perhaps the main proponent for allowing 'plug-and-play' so I feel a
    little
    responsible here; since last week and Jon's explanation of the desire *not*
    to allow the updating of a codelist Schema *without* corresponding changes
    in namespaces in the whole of the UBL set of Schemas, I now feel convinced
    by the argument. This is unfortunate in one sense because I now find myself
    seeming hypocritical in arguing against the very thing I so persistently
    asked for.
    Nevertheless I'd be happier if we all agreed whether we go for allowing
    changes
    without namespace changes or not doing so. This decision, I think, would
    have major
    implications (correct me XSD experts if I'm wrong) on whether we use
    substitutionGroups as proposed by the example and instructions from the
    CLSC.
    (The finer details of what is involved with either abstract elements or
    abstract types
    I admit I'm new to so I'd rely on what others have said but there does seem
    to be
    a lot of advice around about this which seems to support my concerns at
    least.)
    
    Steve
    
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Stephen Green" <stephen_green@seventhproject.co.uk>
    To: <ubl@lists.oasis-open.org>
    Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 7:16 PM
    Subject: [ubl] A Codelist Issue
    
    
    > I'm bringing this issue to the ubl list as Jon asks since I think there
    may
    > be a few who
    > echo the concern that the proposed Codelist mechanism uses
    > substitutionGroups.
    >
    > From all I can find out, substitution has been ruled out for since the
    > middle of last year
    > by NDRSC.
    >
    > There are serious recommendations against it's use being expressed by
    > several groups
    > outside of UBL. Marty has stated that there is no other way to do what is
    > necessary
    > for the codelist methodology. This concerns me - are we trying to do
    > something more
    > than is actually necessary since other groups and NDRSC have confidently
    > deemed it
    > something to be ruled out? I have read very few 'pros' for the use of
    > substitutionGroups
    > in particular and a great many 'cons'. Can others verify this?
    >
    > Steve
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: <jon.bosak@sun.com>
    > To: <ubl@lists.oasis-open.org>
    > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 7:03 PM
    > Subject: [ubl] Use ubl list for cross-SC discussions
    >
    >
    > > UBL TC,
    > >
    > > Resolution of remaining issues leading to the generation of 1.0
    > > schemas is being seriously hindered by multiple discussions taking
    > > place on separate SC lists and, worse yet, on ad hoc private
    > > lists.  This has to stop.  Please use the main ubl list for any
    > > matter that crosses SC boundaries.
    > >
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