Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 04 March 2020 01:00UTC
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=2020-03-04T01:00:00 Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
Participation
Todd Albers
Kenneth Bengtsson (convener)
Ken Holman
Levine Naidoo
Referencing the specification
One of the following should be used as a specific citation:
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OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2
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OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)
The following would be used for a general (any version) citation:
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OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)
The canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
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http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/ The canonical 2.1 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
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http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/ The ISO/IEC catalogue entry for UBL 2.1 is found at:
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http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm/?csnumber=66370 The ISO/IEC document and attachments for UBL 2.1 are found at:
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http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/ Standing items
Additions to events calendar -
http://ubl.xml.org/events Nothing
Review of Pacific call minutes
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202002/msg00019.html Review of Atlantic call minutes
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202002/msg00021.html Membership status review
https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership New member orientation information:
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647 Voting status is determined by the following:
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existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to maintain voting status
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non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain voting status
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members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and their voting status is not impacted
Current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical):
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Todd Albers
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Member ASC X9 AB, Member ISO 20022 Payment SEG, Member W3C Web Payments Interest Group, Business Payments Coalition
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Kenneth Bengtsson
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Chair OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT
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Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
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Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS, Member CEN/TC434/WS8
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Peter Borresen
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DK Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG7
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Andrea Caccia
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Chair CEN/TC 434, Member ETSI/ESI TC, IT Expert UN/CEFACT
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Kees Duvekot
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Member OASIS BDXR, Member of the Standaardisatie platform e-factureren
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Cecile Guasch
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Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG1, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG2, European Commission liaison (DIGIT Interoperability Unit)
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Philip Helger
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Member OASIS BDXR
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G. Ken Holman
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Member OASIS BDXR
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Yves Jordan
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Natalie Muric
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Matt Vickers
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Member OASIS BDXR, Member US Business Payments Coalition, Director US Data Coalition, Member ETAAC
UBL 2.3
ISO submission
Editors and subcommittee chairs need to familiarize themselves with ISO/IEC Directives Part 2 in order to produce content that is compliant with ISO requirements:
https://www.iso.org/directives-and-policies.html ISO requirements being discussed here:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-240 UBL 2.3 Second Public Review
Second public review ended on February 15 and yielded the following comments:
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https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202002/msg00008.html -
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https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/202002/msg00010.html Preliminary comment log available here:
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Debated the comment for adding a Description element to the CommodityClassification ABIE.
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PRD02-01, PRD02-02, PRD02-03, PRD02-04, PRD02-06: Proposed to:
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Accept the comments
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Identify other Code/Text occurrences in the document model that do not have the Text element unbounded and change the cardinality
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Emphasize IND07 and IND08 in the specification to ring users attention to these rules
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Agreed to continue discussion next week
Preparations for PRD03:
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Resolution and implementation of comments received during PRD02
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Expected new requirements from the Transportation SC
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Possibly new requirements from the Payments and Finance SC
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Pre-award issues with PRD02:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-274 Tools for producing UBL artefacts
Ken asked about the status of the tooling for producing the committee deliverables. It was previously agreed that the new set of tools should be used in parallel with producing the UBL 2.3 artefacts so as to compare the output.
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Erlend will produce a set of artefacts based on the new tools, so that the result can be compared with the CSPRD02 package.
Tools used for CSPRD02 published here:
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=66612 Timeline and critical path
All PRD02 comments must be resolved and additional submissions for PRD03 submitted before end of March, so that a CSPRD03 can be assembled for vote and release early April, and so that comments can be discussed and resolved at the May face-to-face
meeting.
UBL Payments and Finance Subcommittee (PayFin)
Nothing
UBL Post-award
Nothing
UBL Pre-award
Nothing
UBL Transportation Subcommittee (TSC)
Nothing
UBL Naming and Design Rules Subcommittee (NDRSC)
Alternative serialization for JSON alternative serialization, see
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201912/msg00019.html and
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-273 . Agreed to arrange a March teleconference to discuss the details.
Formation of new Business Master Data Subcommittee
First draft of a charter for a Business Master Data Subcommittee posted here:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-pre-award/202001/msg00000.html Any comments or suggestions for the subcommittee charter?
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Should we include a definition of master data in the statement of purpose?
Candidate(s) for subcommittee chair(s)?
TC Liaisons
ISO TC 204/WG7
Agreed at the September 11, 2019 TC conference call to seek a formal liaison with ISO TC 204/WG7 specifically for collaborating on the new ISO 24533 specification.
We need to appoint a liaison, preferably someone who is a member of both groups. See also:
https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/liaison#liaisons CEN TC 434
Agreed at the Copenhagen face-to-face meeting that the UBL TC is open to establish a formal liaison with CEN TC 434 to create a European or international standard for electronic invoicing, if there is an interest from the CEN TC.
CEN informs that a liaison cannot be established at TC level. Awaiting feedback from OASIS.
ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32/WG 1
ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 32/WG 1 is open to establish a formal liaison. Ken and Andrea participated in the last WG 1 meeting. Andrea will post a progress report.
JIRA tickets
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UBL 2.x:
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BDNDR:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13472 -
All UBL:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=11670 -
TCAdmin:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13070 When creating tickets, remember to distinguish the following components by how they are described to be used as categories:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-panel If you leave the "Component/s" field empty, the ticket will not show up in the summary filter.
Members please note to discuss ticket issues as comments to the ticket so that we can audit the discussion when making decisions about the ticket, without having to find the discussion on the main mail list.
JIRA status and resolution value definitions
Necessary to review the definitions of ticket status and resolution in JIRA to align with the values that currently can be assigned.
Our current definitions are:
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NEW: the issue has been created but not yet agreed to be in consideration or not for the development distribution
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in order for the issue to become active work for the committee the new ticket must be changed to OPEN or it will not be seen in the "to do" filter
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the other option on a new ticket is to change it to DEFERRED
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please remember to look at the open filter to ensure visibility:
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OPEN: the issue is in consideration for the development distribution
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keep the issue OPEN when assigning to Ken for incorporation
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please remember to add a comment regarding expectations whenever you assign an OPEN ticket to another person for any action
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RESOLVED + Incomplete: the issue has been decided but not yet in test
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RESOLVED + Applied: the issue is incorporated in test but not released
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RESOLVED + Fixed: the issue is incorporated in a working draft version
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RESOLVED + Later: the issue is still up for discussion for a future minor revision but not the current development
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RESOLVED + No Action: considered as no action for any distribution
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RESOLVED + Cannot Reproduce: considered as no action for distribution
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APPLIED + Fixed: the issue is included in a public review (record the availability of the disposition once review opened)
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DEFERRED: the issue is not in consideration for any minor revision
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please remember to use this when creating new tickets for backwards-incompatible changes
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See also the discussion on the status workflows here:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201709/msg00000.html Subcommittee conference calls
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Transportation Subcommittee will be meeting on Thursday every week at 14:00UTC (will be using Peter's GotoMeeting facility)
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Pre-award Subcommittee will be on hold until further notice, unless there is a request for a meeting.
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Other subcommittees will be meeting on an as-required basis
Face-to-face
Face-to-face meeting(s) in 2020?
Napa Valley no longer an option. Alternatives for the week after the Exchange Summit and Think! conferences?
Possibly back-to-back with Exchange Summit Americas and IBM Think! Conferences (both held same week).
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Todd will look for opportunities to host the meeting in Minneapolis
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Peter to ask Tradeshift if they can host us in San Francisco
Should we have a face-to-face meeting in Europe? For example, September 21 to 25 (week before Exchange Summit Zurich).
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Possibility at the University of Paris (Peter to check).
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Zwolle (Kees)
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Lisbon (Peter)
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Helsinki (Todd)
TC conference call schedule
Call schedule
2020-03-04
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-03-11
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/ 19:00Lima /20:00Ottawa/ 00:00UTC / 11:00Sydney
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Atlantic:
10:00MSP /10:00Lima/ 11:00Ottawa /15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-03-18
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 10:00MSP/10:00Lima/11:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-03-25
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 10:00MSP/10:00Lima/11:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-04-01
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/11:00Sydney
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Atlantic:
09:00MSP / 09:00Lima / 10:00Ottawa / 14:00UTC /16:00Europe
2020-04-08
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/ 10:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-04-15
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/10:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-04-22
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/10:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-04-29
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/10:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-05-06
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/10:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-05-13
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/10:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-05-20
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/10:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
2020-05-27
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Pacific: 19:00MSP/19:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/00:00UTC/10:00Sydney
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Atlantic: 09:00MSP/09:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe
Outline of teleconference times for 2020
See:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201912/msg00006.html TC calendar
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl iCal subscription link:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50 Will anyone be requesting a leave of absence in the near future? For privacy reasons, this discussion will be kept off of the minutes.
Other business
Nothing