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    Posted 08-28-2002 08:56
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    Subject: Re: [wsia] [wsia-wsrp] 8/27/2002: Upcoming WS-Security OASIS TC Meeting


    Thanks Monica,
    
    I would add a couple of concerns to what Carsten has here.
    
    1. How can the depth information for preferences and confidential
    information be added after authentication, verification and
    certification? Will there be a defined format for that or can
    HumanMarkup TC produce/recommend such.
    
    2. Where in the process will such information beyond the single
    sign-on occur. To WSIA-WSRP, for WSIA-WSRP purposes, also, what
    format will be recommended and where in the process should that
    information be requested/allowed into the protocol/specification?
    This overlaps all four TCs.
    
    3. Where will the information reside--with the concern being that
    HumanMarkup TC is set to recommend that control and tracking and
    destruction of said information after approved use remain with the
    user and/or a non-govermental, non-proprietary, unbiased entity which
    will not be empowered to sell or offer such information to third
    parties.
    
    Thanks, again,
    Rex
    
    At 9:35 AM +0200 8/28/02, Carsten Leue wrote:
    >Hi Monica.
    >
    >Great that you are attending the meeting, that will give us the oppotunity
    >to fix some outstanding questions. My current questions/concerns are:
    >
    >- will our role concept become obsolete in the near future? Will there be
    >WS standards that handle role transfer/mapping directly inside the SOAP
    >stack?
    >- is what we define a "role" really a role from a security standpoint or
    >rather a delegated user identity? Maybe the correct approach would be to
    >let WS security send a couple of user identities rather than inventing our
    >own role concept. Is this possible in WS-Security? Would it be the correct
    >approach
    >- does WS-Security define user identity mapping? If not how is the transfer
    >of user identity supposed to work? Will there be an upcoming standard? Is
    >the user identiy programmatically accessible? When will that be
    >incorporated in standard SOAP stacks (AXIS, .NET)?
    >
    >- the basic question is: should be define security directly in our protocol
    >at all or will WS-security and forthcoming standards handle this problem.
    >
    >Best regards
    >Carsten Leue
    >
    >-------
    >Dr. Carsten Leue
    >Dept.8288, IBM Laboratory B�blingen , Germany
    >Tel.: +49-7031-16-4603, Fax: +49-7031-16-4401
    >
    >
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    >|         |           Monica Martin    |
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    >|         |           08/27/2002 07:38 |
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    >WS-Security OASIS TC Meeting
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    >
    >I hope to be attending the upcoming WS-Security opening TC next week
    >from 4-5 September 2002 in Redwood City. As this related standards
    >development complements or affects our work, I am asking if you have
    >general questions or inputs?  I could be more focused in providing any
    >feedback for the benefit of the WSRP-WSIA efforts.
    >
    >Thank you.
    >Monica J. Martin
    >Drake Certivo, Inc.
    >208.585.5946
    >
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