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[wsia] RE: [wsrp] WSXL paper update

  • 1.  [wsia] RE: [wsrp] WSXL paper update

    Posted 04-15-2002 10:58
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    Subject: [wsia] RE: [wsrp] WSXL paper update


    
    Part of the reason for factoring things into the portTypes as you see them
    in the position paper has to do with reuse. We can see both the
    WSXLServiceDescription and WSXLLifecycle as having applicability in a
    broader sense than just WSIA. If the functionality can push lower in the
    web services stack, that would be great. If not, perhaps they can be
    generalized (likely just a name change) so that many web services will
    publish them as available ports. I think our need is proceeding this work
    and should therefore look to provide a good model for both cases.
    
    
                                                                                                                    
                          "Eilon Reshef"                                                                            
                          <eilon.reshef@webc        To:       Rich Thompson/Watson/IBM@IBMUS                        
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                          04/12/2002 05:19          Subject:  RE: [wsrp] WSXL paper update                          
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    Thanks.
    
    BTW, I really liked the new write-up.
    
    Another question or two (I hope it's OK...):
    
    The getServiceDocument and hasPortType seem to be very "generic" in the
    sense that they could apply to essentially every Web Service (not
    necessarily a WSIA one). Pragmatists may even argue that it's somewhat of a
    more sensible model than the registry model (UDDI) (especially the
    getServiceDocument one, and especially if it can be provided via a simple
    HTTP GET request). Do those definitions come from other IBM work (is this
    related to IBM's dynamic Web Services invocation stuff?)? Do you know if
    such an approach has been actively promoted anywhere else in the Web
    Services "world"?
    
    How do you think that WSIA should handle this topic - should we define such
    interfaces and state that they should be propagated to the lower parts of
    the stack? Should we wait for the lower parts of the stack to support it (I
    hope not)?
    
    Any particular thoughts on the lifecycle management along the same lines?
    Were you guys aware of any "generic" Web Services notion that captures
    stateful Web Services? Should we define those interfaces and basically
    explicitly note that we expect the lower part of the stack to adapt or
    refine them? Or maybe are we (WSIA) the right part of the stack?