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RE: [wsrp] [wsia] [wsrp-wsia joint interfaces] Search results page,map services, transient entities.

  • 1.  RE: [wsrp] [wsia] [wsrp-wsia joint interfaces] Search results page,map services, transient entities.

    Posted 06-12-2002 10:54
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    Subject: RE: [wsrp] [wsia] [wsrp-wsia joint interfaces] Search results page,map services, transient entities.


    I don't understand why transient entities are created in this scenario. Why is the search results page creating the transient entities?
    I can think of a case where the search results page provides a set of clickable GIFs that correspond to the hotel services but NOT actually create transient entities at the Producer. If the user actually clicks on one of them, it is at that time the consumer requests the producer to create an entity (transient or persistent) and then embeds the output of the entity in its web page.

    Am I missing something?

    thanks,
    Ravi Konuru

    Carsten Leue/Germany/IBM@IBMDE




            Carsten Leue/Germany/IBM@IBMDE

            06/12/2002 06:57 AM



    To: Eilon Reshef <eilon.reshef@webcollage.com>
    cc: "'Alan Kropp'" <akropp@epicentric.com>, wsia@lists.oasis-open.org, wsrp@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: RE: [wsrp] [wsia] [wsrp-wsia joint interfaces] agenda for Tuesday 11 June



    I think that this is a very good scenario where transient entities make
    sense.


    Best regards
    Carsten Leue

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    Dr. Carsten Leue
    Dept.8288, IBM Laboratory B�blingen , Germany
    Tel.: +49-7031-16-4603, Fax: +49-7031-16-4401



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    Alan,

    I think that one example scenario is a search results page, say for hotels,
    that dynamically displays multiple maps - a map for each hotel found.

    Assuming that maps are remote services, and assuming that the number of
    results is dynamic, the Consumer needs to create multiple copies of the map
    service. If we allow the Producer to determine the persistence state of
    those maps, that would mean that someone will have to take care of the
    lifetime of those maps. The Consumer can't, because the page may be gone
    without the Consumer never knowing about it (the user closes the browser
    window). The Producer can't, because it can't tell whether the Consumer has
    stored a reference to those maps as part of a design-time description of a
    user page.

    Is that along the lines of what you were looking for?

    Eilon