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Re: [wsia] Re: RE: [wsrp] Sessions and Transient Entities

  • 1.  Re: [wsia] Re: RE: [wsrp] Sessions and Transient Entities

    Posted 06-17-2002 20:05
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    Subject: Re: [wsia] Re: RE: [wsrp] Sessions and Transient Entities


    
    Let's defer the discussion on whether the consumer knows of the producer's
    preferences to the F2F but let's try to come to an agreement that the
    consumer can create multiple sessions and let the remote portlets share
    data by letting them share the same session. In one extreme there would be
    one session per user per producer, in the other extreme there would be one
    session per user per remote portlet.
    
    
    Best regards
    Carsten Leue
    
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    Dr. Carsten Leue
    Dept.8288, IBM Laboratory B�blingen , Germany
    Tel.: +49-7031-16-4603, Fax: +49-7031-16-4401
    
    
    
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    I would agree that supporting explicit creation of sessions is easy means
    for a Consumer to indicate an arbitrary grouping that it would like to
    establish. As the Producer is ultimately managing the sessions, it can
    always enforce whatever policies it would like on these groupings. I would
    recommend that this version of the spec not try and define how a Producer
    could expose such policies to the Consumer, though we may want to revisit
    this question for future versions of the spec if scenarios are defined that
    demonstrate value to the Consumer in knowing the Producer's policies.
    
    
    
    
                          "MICHAEL.FREEDMAN"
    
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                                                    Subject:  Re: RE: [wsrp]
    Sessions and Transient Entities
                          06/12/2002 10:58
    
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    Irs not so much a bother to allow rather its a no reason to prevent.  If a
    consumer wants to support such a thing they should be free to do so as this
    would allow arbitrary groupings (from the perspective of the producer).
    
    
          -Mike-
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
          face="Trebuchet MS" color=#0000ff>If a simple group-id within the
          portlet UI
          takes care of the issue (which I agree with), why bother to allow the
          Consumer
          to create and manage sessions explicitly (versus implicit creation by
          the
          Producer)?
    
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