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  • 1.  RE: [wsia][wsia-requirements][R905 and 601]

    Posted 05-22-2002 13:55
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    Subject: RE: [wsia][wsia-requirements][R905 and 601]


    
    I think all these levels are appropriate at times:
    
       - Requirements on the specification: Guidelines for the TC as it writes
       the spec.
       - Requirements on Producers & Consumers: Processing models and semantics
       - Requirements on artifacts: Restrictions on the artifacts that are
       exchanged as part of the protocol.
    
    Some requirements have implications on all of these levels. This particular
    one places requirements on an artifact (eg. Presentation Fragments), on the
    TC (eg. minimal restrictions on markup types) and Producers/Consumers (eg.
    setting & processing whatever the spec defines as the standard means to
    achieve unique tokens).
    
    
                                                                                                                        
                          "Monica Martin"                                                                               
                          <mmartin@certivo.        To:       "Rex Brooks" <rexb@starbourne.com>, Rich                   
                          net>                      Thompson/Watson/IBM@IBMUS, <wsia@lists.oasis-open.org>              
                                                   cc:                                                                  
                          05/22/2002 01:20         Subject:  RE: [wsia][wsia-requirements][R905 and 601]                
                          PM                                                                                            
                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                        
    
    
    
    This gets back to my question today.  Is the use of "specification" to
    mean the WSIA Web Service.  What can a specification do?  Perhaps the
    answer is "Provide the capability for xx to do yy."
    
    Thanks, Rex.
    Monica
    
                 -----Original Message-----
                 From: Rex Brooks
                 Sent: Wed 5/22/2002 11:18 AM
                 To: Rich Thompson; wsia@lists.oasis-open.org
                 Cc:
                 Subject: Re: [wsia][wsia-requirements][R905 and 601]
    
    
    
                 Could we possibly change the construction of our requirements
    so
    that
                 it is the Specification which MUST, MUST NOT provide, preclude
    etc?
    
                 When we say Presentation Fragments MUST be capable.... what we
    are
                 saying is that the Presentation Fragment MUST be thus or such,
    when
                 what we mean is that the Specification MUST make it so that
    the
                 Presentation Fragment can be capable... We all know what we
    mean, but
                 it bothers me a little that our thinking seems to need to take
    a
                 rather, hmmmn (insert a PC term here) transposed form.
    
                 Sorry. It's nitpicky, but clarity isn't easy.
    
                 Ciao,
                 Rex
                 At 10:02 AM -0400 5/22/02, Rich Thompson wrote:
                 >Couple of points:
                 >- Thomas has pointed out in an initial WSRP pass through this
    document that
                 >we will fail if multiple presentation fragments can not be
    combined into a
                 >single page ... therefore change to MUST.
                 >- There is also an intent to keep restrictions to the minimum
    and a note
                 >that they will be type specific.
                 >
                 >Suggest rewording to:
                 >
                 >    Different Presentation Fragments MUST be capable of being
    combined in
                 >    a single document. This MAY require specification of
    restrictions
                 >    specific
                 >    to various markup types or Presentation Fragments, but
    any
    such
                 >    specification
                 >    of restrictions MUST be minimized.  If a markup type
    (such
    as HTML)
                 >    mandates
                 >    uniqueness of tokens in a single document, a page SHOULD
    be
    composed in
                 >    a
                 >    way that guarantees uniqueness. In particular, multiple
    Presentation
                 >    Fragments
                 >    generated by the same Producer SHOULD be capable of being
    combined.
                 >
                 >
                 >
                 >
                 >
    >                       Monica
                 >Martin
    >                       <mmartin@certivo.        To:       Rich
                 >Thompson/Watson/IBM@IBMUS, wsia@lists.oasis-open.org
                 >                       net>
                 >cc:
    >                                                Subject:  WSIA
                 >5/21/2002: [wsia][wsia-requirements][R905 and 601]
                 >                       05/21/2002
                 >08:43
    >
                 >PM
    >
                 >
    >
                 >
    >
                 >
                 >
                 >Several ideas:
                 >
                 >Composition of presentation fragments onto a page
                 >
                 >Composition of different presentation fragments onto a page
                 >
                 >Composition of different presentation fragments generated by
    a
    producer
                 >(May be the same as above)
                 >
                 >Restrictiions on presentation fragments (or markup types)
                 >
                 >Guarantee uniqueness of tokens in a single document defined
    by
    the
                 >presentation format
                 >
                 >
                 >
                 >
                 >
                 >E905 and E601
                 >
                 >Notes: [mm1: Namespace entity rewriting Javascript; Consumer
    with
                 >multiple Producers? Need justification. Include with
    presentation
                 >fragments (Consumer passes Producer a key).]
                 >
                 >
                 >
                 >Suggested text:
                 >
                 >Different Presentation Fragments SHOULD be capable of being
    combined in
                 >a single document. Restructions MAY be specified on markup
    types or
                 >Presentation Fragments.  In particular, if a presentation
    format (such
                 >as HTML) mandate uniqueness of tokens in a single document, a
    page
                 >SHOULD be composed in a way that guarantees uniqueness. In
    particular,
                 >Presentation Fragments generated by the same Producer SHOULD
    be
    capable
                 >of being composed.
                 >
                 >
                 >
                 >Comments and arrows welcome.
                 >
                 >Thanks.
                 >Monica J. Martin
                 >
                 >Program Manager
                 >
                 >Drake Certivo, Inc.
                 >
                 >208.585.5946
                 >
                 >
                 >
                 >              -----Original Message-----
                 >              From: Rich Thompson
                 >              Sent: Fri 5/17/2002 1:33 PM
                 >              To: wsia@lists.oasis-open.org
                 >              Cc:
                 >              Subject: [wsia][wsia-requirements][R130]
                 >
                 >
                 >
                 >              Here are the modified requiremetns documents
    ...
    the 'a'
                 >version
                 >is prior
                 >              to accepting changes and rearranging the
    requirements by
                 >functional
                 >              categories. In addition to those changes, the
    'b'
    version has
                 >consistent
                 >              capitalization of words like 'MUST' and
    Consumer.
    I also noted
                 >and
                 >              implemented the global change of 'property' to
    'context data'.
                 >
                 >              (See attached file: WSIA reqs
    2002-05-17a.doc)(See attached
                 >file: WSIA reqs
                 >              2002-05-17b.doc)
                 >
                 >              Requirements still needing attention include:
                 >                    R201
                 >                    R203
                 >                    R130
                 >                    Overlap between R601 & E905
                 >                    Overlap between R702 & E904
                 >                    Monica's recent email:
                 >                       WSIA Web Services SHOULD provide the
    capability for
                 >those
                 >                       Presentation
                 >                       Fragments, returned by the Producer,
    can
    be requested
                 >and relayed
                 >                       through the Consumer.
                 >                       WSIA Web Service SHOULD provide the
    capability for
                 >Presentation
                 >                       Fragments to reference end-user
    requests
    for external
                 >resources.
                 >
                 >
                 >
                 >
    
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