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    Posted 05-15-2002 20:07
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    Subject: Re: [wsia] [wsrp] [wsrp-wsia joint interfaces] 5/14 call minutes


    
    I have a few comments/questions based on the 5/14 joint draft.  I apologize
    if these have been covered in the subgroup, but time constraints have
    prevented me from participating in it too, and there has not been much
    public discussion of the content.
    
    1. Instance handles
    
    It seems that these handles are being overloaded to identify both a service
    instance and the state that the instance is in.  Is an instance allowed to
    be in multiple states at once?  If not, shouldn't the state be encapsulated
    within the producer (i.e., shouldn't the handle refer to instance only)?
    
    The description of performAction() says: "This operation may return a new
    instanceHandle (otherwise, null is returned) to accommodate Web Services
    that transition from statelessness to statefulness."  Is statefulness a
    dynamic aspect of a service?  I have always thought it was static (i.e., a
    service is either stateful or not).
    
    2. Properties
    
    It seems that there is a global set of properties for service instances.  Do
    we want to allow for state-specific properties?
    
    The customization group has been discussing inter-property constraints (such
    as those introduced by XForms).  Do we want to include a hook for those here
    along with the property schema?
    
    3. Optionality, Capabilities, and portTypes
    
    What is the motivation for introducing new constructs for WSDL
    extensibility/optional operations rather than dealing with multiple
    portTypes per service (as WSXL seems to promote)?
    
    4. Heterogeneity
    
    The 5/14 version of the draft spec includes several comments like "If the
    service provides access to a heterogenous set of objects, this operation may
    need to take an instanceHandle."  Wouldn't each object type want to have
    it's own binding (e.g., URI)?  
    
    This leads to a bigger question of whether we want to consider separate
    set/get operations for each property vs. the current direction of a generic
    property collection.  With the former approach we'd be able to distinguish
    heterogenous objects through different portTypes.
    
    Cheers,
    Tim
    
    


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