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    Posted 06-17-2002 14:37
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    Subject: RE: [wsrp-wsia] Re: [wsrp-interfaces] Re: [wsia][wsrp][wsrp-wsia jointinterfaces]: An alternative


    Title: RE: [wsrp-wsia] Re: [wsrp-interfaces] Re: [wsia][wsrp]
    That, calling producers portlets doesn't work for WSIA which has a much larger set of requirements than WSRP-specific concerns. We are doing the joint work first so that the terminology will work across the spectrum. Using wsrp or wsia prefixes would solve that problem. Also, portlet is a term that is already specific to a pre-existing API in wide use.

    Ciao,
    Rex

    At 2:02 PM -0400 6/17/02, Jeff Broberg wrote:
    Why don't we call the producer service just portlet?
    [Jeff Broberg] thought that by abstracting the producer service away from a portlet that we could reuse the term for wsia.  but would like to hear others opinions. 

    About Session, I would like to see a more detailed definition including how it relates to the client.
    [Jeff Broberg] will work on it 

    Regards.

    Alejandro

    Jeff Broberg wrote:
    Mike -

    I agree.  The current model, while clearly understood by many, I believe is being interpreted in slightly different ways, enough so, to be causing all the confusion and concern you mentiono.  I still believe a very high level diagram of the relationships between the client - consumer - producer would be extremely beneficial.  I am not sure how to draw that, as each conference call, the diagram I draw is different from the one before.  So for me, to get this all straight, I quess it comes down to definitions.  And from those definitions we can determine relationships, etc.  So, I took the liberty of using some of the statements that you made in your email, to see if they are agreed upon or not.  This will also be helping for the definitions in the glossary.  So here goes:

    client = an end user

    consumer = an intemediary responsible for the aggregation and control of heterogeneous producer services, responsible for the interaction between the client and the producer services placed on the clients application interface.
    producer = a container of producer services
    producer service = the WSIA/WSRP compliant service ( aka. portlet )
    template = a producer service, with initial settings specified
    entity = an instance of a producer service ( potentially based on a template )
    transient entity = an instance of a producer service
    persistent entity = an instance of a producer service + persistent data
    session scope = is a shared scope between all entities within a producer that a consumer chooses to group together.  This can be all the entities of the producer, a subset of entities, and even at the extreme one session per entity.
     
    While, I know some of the definitions are terse, I am trying to see if the relationships are correct.  Because half the battle during these discussions is trying to understand what everyone is saying, especially when we are all working off of various interpretations of what the terms actually mean.  So, please, let me know, where my interpretation is wrong, and hopefully from these definitions, the relationships will be evident, and our efforts can proceed.
    jeff




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