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  • 1.  CTI Brussels F2F Meeting...RSVP deadline 5 September

    Posted 09-01-2016 20:54
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    Dear CTI Members, The CTI TC F2F meeting is scheduled for Wednesday, 7 September at the Thon EU Hotel , Germany Room . Lunch and refreshments will be provided by OASIS. A headcount is needed ASAP. Below is a list of individuals that replied to the last RSVP request. If you don't see your name and do plan to participate in either the F2F meeting or group dinner, please send your RSVP no later than 5 September. Remote access is available to TC members unable to attend in person. Login details are: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/978573765 You can also dial in using your phone. United States (Toll-free): 1 866 899 4679 United States +1 (646) 749-3117 Access Code: 978-573-765 Proposed agenda is attached.  Details on group dinner option : CTI members are invited to sign up to attend a group dinner on Wednesday evening after the F2F. Family members and/or guests traveling along with you are also invited to join us. This is not a hosted dinner, so each participant (and their guests) will be responsible for covering the costs associated with their dinner. Please be sure to confirm the number of guests. Thanks so much and we look forward to seeing you all in Brussels! Regards, Jane **F2F/Dinner Attendees Bret Jordan Alexandre Dulaunoy Raymon van der Velde Ryusuke Masuoka Kazuo Noguchi Jason Keirstead Jerome Athias Allan Thomson Daniel Riedel John-Mark Gurney Carol Geyer Richard Struse Joerg Eschweiler Trey Darley Marko Dragoljevic Sergey Polzunov Aukjan van Belkum Wouter Bolsterlee Andras Iklody Mark Davidson Masato Terada -- Jane Harnad Manager, Events OASIS Advancing open standards for the information society  +1.781.425.5073 x214 (Office) http://www.oasis-open.org Join OASIS at: Borderless Cyber Europe    8-9 Sept   Brussels Borderless Cyber Asia    1-2 Nov     Tokyo Attachment: CTI TC F2F Agenda - Brussels Sep 2016.docx Description: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document

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  • 2.  Re: [cti] CTI Brussels F2F Meeting...RSVP deadline 5 September

    Posted 09-01-2016 20:57




    Hi Jane – the agenda does not have times.
     
    What time do we start?
     
    allan
     

    From:
    "cti@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti@lists.oasis-open.org> on behalf of Jane Harnad <jharnad@oasis-open.org>
    Date: Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 1:53 PM
    To: "cti@lists.oasis-open.org" <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>
    Subject: [cti] CTI Brussels F2F Meeting...RSVP deadline 5 September


     





    Dear CTI Members,

    The CTI TC F2F meeting is scheduled for Wednesday, 7 September at the Thon EU Hotel , Germany Room .
    Lunch and refreshments will be provided by OASIS. A headcount is needed ASAP. Below is a list of individuals that replied to the last RSVP request. If you don't see your name and do plan to participate in either the F2F meeting or group dinner, please send
    your RSVP no later than 5 September.

    Remote access is available to TC members unable to attend in person.


    Login details are:

    https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/978573765

    You can also dial in using your phone.
    United States (Toll-free): 1 866 899 4679

    United States +1 (646) 749-3117


    Access Code: 978-573-765


    Proposed agenda is attached. 


    Details on group dinner option : CTI members are invited to sign up to attend a group dinner on Wednesday evening after the F2F. Family
    members and/or guests traveling along with you are also invited to join us. This is not a hosted dinner, so each participant (and their guests) will be responsible for covering the costs associated with their dinner. Please be sure to confirm the number of
    guests.

     

    Thanks so much and we look forward to seeing you all in Brussels!
    Regards, Jane




    **F2F/Dinner Attendees





    Bret Jordan





    Alexandre Dulaunoy





    Raymon van der Velde





    Ryusuke Masuoka





    Kazuo Noguchi





    Jason Keirstead





    Jerome Athias





    Allan Thomson





    Daniel Riedel





    John-Mark Gurney





    Carol Geyer





    Richard Struse





    Joerg Eschweiler





    Trey Darley





    Marko Dragoljevic





    Sergey Polzunov





    Aukjan van Belkum





    Wouter Bolsterlee





    Andras Iklody





    Mark Davidson





    Masato Terada







    --





    Jane Harnad

    Manager, Events

    OASIS Advancing open standards for the information society 
    +1.781.425.5073 x214 (Office)

    http://www.oasis-open.org

    Join OASIS at:
    Borderless Cyber Europe    8-9 Sept  Brussels


    Borderless Cyber Asia    1-2 Nov   Tokyo
















  • 3.  Re: [cti] CTI Brussels F2F Meeting...RSVP deadline 5 September

    Posted 09-06-2016 22:19
    Please say that we are including confidence and opinion object in STIX 2.1 candidate smackdown agenda item at the F2F.  We just can't treat everything that people send out as the absolute truth as we do in STIX 2.0. There is a reason things like the admiralty code were developed.... and that's because threat intelligence is always someone's opinion.We need a way for the consumer to understand how confident the producer is in the threat intelligence they are sending. It's up to the consumer to determine if they believe that its the truth, and they need various ways to determine this. That's a ton easier if the person who sent the threat intelligence to you tells you how much they trust the intelligence and trust the source of the intelligence with some form of confidence field..... I really, really believe this is critical for STIX to work properly, and it was something that made it possible for STIX to automatically be pushed out to the different security tools within an organization (e.g. high confidence DNS to the DNS RPZ block, low confidence to the alerting on the passive DNS). These are so easy to add to STIX, we would be remiss to skip it. Cheers Terry MacDonald   Chief Product Officer M:   +64 211 918 814 E:   terry.macdonald@cosive.com W:   www.cosive.com On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Jane Harnad < jharnad@oasis-open.org > wrote: Dear CTI Members, The CTI TC F2F meeting is scheduled for Wednesday, 7 September at the Thon EU Hotel , Germany Room . Lunch and refreshments will be provided by OASIS. A headcount is needed ASAP. Below is a list of individuals that replied to the last RSVP request. If you don't see your name and do plan to participate in either the F2F meeting or group dinner, please send your RSVP no later than 5 September. Remote access is available to TC members unable to attend in person. Login details are: https://global.gotomeeting. com/join/978573765 You can also dial in using your phone. United States (Toll-free): 1 866 899 4679 United States +1 (646) 749-3117 Access Code: 978-573-765 Proposed agenda is attached.  Details on group dinner option : CTI members are invited to sign up to attend a group dinner on Wednesday evening after the F2F. Family members and/or guests traveling along with you are also invited to join us. This is not a hosted dinner, so each participant (and their guests) will be responsible for covering the costs associated with their dinner. Please be sure to confirm the number of guests. Thanks so much and we look forward to seeing you all in Brussels! Regards, Jane **F2F/Dinner Attendees Bret Jordan Alexandre Dulaunoy Raymon van der Velde Ryusuke Masuoka Kazuo Noguchi Jason Keirstead Jerome Athias Allan Thomson Daniel Riedel John-Mark Gurney Carol Geyer Richard Struse Joerg Eschweiler Trey Darley Marko Dragoljevic Sergey Polzunov Aukjan van Belkum Wouter Bolsterlee Andras Iklody Mark Davidson Masato Terada -- Jane Harnad Manager, Events OASIS Advancing open standards for the information society  +1.781.425.5073 x214 (Office) http://www.oasis-open.org Join OASIS at: Borderless Cyber Europe    8-9 Sept   Brussels Borderless Cyber Asia    1-2 Nov     Tokyo ------------------------------ ------------------------------ --------- To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that generates this mail.  Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: https://www.oasis-open.org/ apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_ workgroups.php


  • 4.  Re: [cti] CTI Brussels F2F Meeting...RSVP deadline 5 September

    Posted 09-06-2016 22:19
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    Please say that we are including confidence and opinion object in STIX 2.1 candidate smackdown agenda item at the F2F.  We just can't treat everything that people send out as the absolute truth as we do in STIX 2.0. There is a reason things like the admiralty code were developed.... and that's because threat intelligence is always someone's opinion.We need a way for the consumer to understand how confident the producer is in the threat intelligence they are sending. It's up to the consumer to determine if they believe that its the truth, and they need various ways to determine this. That's a ton easier if the person who sent the threat intelligence to you tells you how much they trust the intelligence and trust the source of the intelligence with some form of confidence field..... I really, really believe this is critical for STIX to work properly, and it was something that made it possible for STIX to automatically be pushed out to the different security tools within an organization (e.g. high confidence DNS to the DNS RPZ block, low confidence to the alerting on the passive DNS). These are so easy to add to STIX, we would be remiss to skip it. Cheers Terry MacDonald   Chief Product Officer M:   +64 211 918 814 E:   terry.macdonald@cosive.com W:   www.cosive.com On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Jane Harnad < jharnad@oasis-open.org > wrote: Dear CTI Members, The CTI TC F2F meeting is scheduled for Wednesday, 7 September at the Thon EU Hotel , Germany Room . Lunch and refreshments will be provided by OASIS. A headcount is needed ASAP. Below is a list of individuals that replied to the last RSVP request. If you don't see your name and do plan to participate in either the F2F meeting or group dinner, please send your RSVP no later than 5 September. Remote access is available to TC members unable to attend in person. Login details are: https://global.gotomeeting. com/join/978573765 You can also dial in using your phone. United States (Toll-free): 1 866 899 4679 United States +1 (646) 749-3117 Access Code: 978-573-765 Proposed agenda is attached.  Details on group dinner option : CTI members are invited to sign up to attend a group dinner on Wednesday evening after the F2F. Family members and/or guests traveling along with you are also invited to join us. This is not a hosted dinner, so each participant (and their guests) will be responsible for covering the costs associated with their dinner. Please be sure to confirm the number of guests. Thanks so much and we look forward to seeing you all in Brussels! Regards, Jane **F2F/Dinner Attendees Bret Jordan Alexandre Dulaunoy Raymon van der Velde Ryusuke Masuoka Kazuo Noguchi Jason Keirstead Jerome Athias Allan Thomson Daniel Riedel John-Mark Gurney Carol Geyer Richard Struse Joerg Eschweiler Trey Darley Marko Dragoljevic Sergey Polzunov Aukjan van Belkum Wouter Bolsterlee Andras Iklody Mark Davidson Masato Terada -- Jane Harnad Manager, Events OASIS Advancing open standards for the information society  +1.781.425.5073 x214 (Office) http://www.oasis-open.org Join OASIS at: Borderless Cyber Europe    8-9 Sept   Brussels Borderless Cyber Asia    1-2 Nov     Tokyo ------------------------------ ------------------------------ --------- To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that generates this mail.  Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: https://www.oasis-open.org/ apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_ workgroups.php


  • 5.  RE: [cti] CTI Brussels F2F Meeting...RSVP deadline 5 September

    Posted 09-07-2016 01:06




     
    Hi!,
     
    Can I add my voice in here as well and say that “Confidence” and also having an “Opinion” about Threat Intelligence is very important and is a concept that
    we use quite heavily when we are exchanging threat intelligence with other financial organisations and dealing with threat data that comes in via 3 rd parties and intelligence sources.
     
    Can we please ensure that this is included in the agenda and discussed at the meeting ?
     
    Regards,
     
    Dean
     
    From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org]
    On Behalf Of Terry MacDonald
    Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2016 8:18 AM
    To: cti@lists.oasis-open.org; cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: Re: [cti] CTI Brussels F2F Meeting...RSVP deadline 5 September
     

    Please say that we are including confidence and opinion object in STIX 2.1 candidate smackdown agenda item at the F2F. 

     


    We just can't treat everything that people send out as the absolute truth as we do in STIX 2.0. There is a reason things like the admiralty code were developed.... and that's because threat intelligence is always someone's opinion.We need
    a way for the consumer to understand how confident the producer is in the threat intelligence they are sending. It's up to the consumer to determine if they believe that its the truth, and they need various ways to determine this. That's a ton easier if the
    person who sent the threat intelligence to you tells you how much they trust the intelligence and trust the source of the intelligence with some form of confidence field.....

     


    I really, really believe this is critical for STIX to work properly, and it was something that made it possible for STIX to automatically be pushed out to the different security tools within an organization (e.g. high confidence DNS to
    the DNS RPZ block, low confidence to the alerting on the passive DNS).


     


    These are so easy to add to STIX, we would be remiss to skip it.












    Cheers


     



    Terry MacDonald   Chief Product Officer


     





     


    M:   +64 211 918 814


    E:   terry.macdonald@cosive.com


    W:   www.cosive.com


     



     


     








     

    On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Jane Harnad < jharnad@oasis-open.org > wrote:


    Dear CTI Members,

    The CTI TC F2F meeting is scheduled for Wednesday, 7 September at the Thon EU Hotel , Germany Room .
    Lunch and refreshments will be provided by OASIS. A headcount is needed ASAP. Below is a list of individuals that replied to the last RSVP request. If you don't see your name and do plan to participate in either the F2F meeting or group dinner, please send
    your RSVP no later than 5 September.

    Remote access is available to TC members unable to attend in person.


    Login details are:

    https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/978573765

    You can also dial in using your phone.
    United States (Toll-free): 1 866 899 4679

    United States
    +1 (646) 749-3117


    Access Code: 978-573-765


    Proposed agenda is attached. 


    Details on group dinner option : CTI members are invited to sign up to attend a group dinner on Wednesday
    evening after the F2F. Family members and/or guests traveling along with you are also invited to join us. This is not a hosted dinner, so each participant (and their guests) will be responsible for covering the costs associated with their dinner. Please be
    sure to confirm the number of guests.


     

    Thanks so much and we look forward to seeing you all in Brussels!
    Regards, Jane




    **F2F/Dinner Attendees





    Bret Jordan





    Alexandre Dulaunoy





    Raymon van der Velde





    Ryusuke Masuoka





    Kazuo Noguchi





    Jason Keirstead





    Jerome Athias





    Allan Thomson





    Daniel Riedel





    John-Mark Gurney





    Carol Geyer





    Richard Struse





    Joerg Eschweiler





    Trey Darley





    Marko Dragoljevic





    Sergey Polzunov





    Aukjan van Belkum





    Wouter Bolsterlee





    Andras Iklody





    Mark Davidson





    Masato Terada







    --





    Jane Harnad

    Manager, Events

    OASIS Advancing open standards for the information society 
    +1.781.425.5073 x214 (Office)

    http://www.oasis-open.org

    Join OASIS at:
    Borderless Cyber Europe    8-9 Sept  Brussels


    Borderless Cyber Asia    1-2
    Nov   Tokyo










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  • 6.  RE: [cti] CTI Brussels F2F Meeting...RSVP deadline 5 September

    Posted 09-07-2016 01:06
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    Hi!,
     
    Can I add my voice in here as well and say that “Confidence” and also having an “Opinion” about Threat Intelligence is very important and is a concept that
    we use quite heavily when we are exchanging threat intelligence with other financial organisations and dealing with threat data that comes in via 3 rd parties and intelligence sources.
     
    Can we please ensure that this is included in the agenda and discussed at the meeting ?
     
    Regards,
     
    Dean
     
    From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org]
    On Behalf Of Terry MacDonald
    Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2016 8:18 AM
    To: cti@lists.oasis-open.org; cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: Re: [cti] CTI Brussels F2F Meeting...RSVP deadline 5 September
     

    Please say that we are including confidence and opinion object in STIX 2.1 candidate smackdown agenda item at the F2F. 

     


    We just can't treat everything that people send out as the absolute truth as we do in STIX 2.0. There is a reason things like the admiralty code were developed.... and that's because threat intelligence is always someone's opinion.We need
    a way for the consumer to understand how confident the producer is in the threat intelligence they are sending. It's up to the consumer to determine if they believe that its the truth, and they need various ways to determine this. That's a ton easier if the
    person who sent the threat intelligence to you tells you how much they trust the intelligence and trust the source of the intelligence with some form of confidence field.....

     


    I really, really believe this is critical for STIX to work properly, and it was something that made it possible for STIX to automatically be pushed out to the different security tools within an organization (e.g. high confidence DNS to
    the DNS RPZ block, low confidence to the alerting on the passive DNS).


     


    These are so easy to add to STIX, we would be remiss to skip it.












    Cheers


     



    Terry MacDonald   Chief Product Officer


     





     


    M:   +64 211 918 814


    E:   terry.macdonald@cosive.com


    W:   www.cosive.com


     



     


     








     

    On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Jane Harnad < jharnad@oasis-open.org > wrote:


    Dear CTI Members,

    The CTI TC F2F meeting is scheduled for Wednesday, 7 September at the Thon EU Hotel , Germany Room .
    Lunch and refreshments will be provided by OASIS. A headcount is needed ASAP. Below is a list of individuals that replied to the last RSVP request. If you don't see your name and do plan to participate in either the F2F meeting or group dinner, please send
    your RSVP no later than 5 September.

    Remote access is available to TC members unable to attend in person.


    Login details are:

    https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/978573765

    You can also dial in using your phone.
    United States (Toll-free): 1 866 899 4679

    United States
    +1 (646) 749-3117


    Access Code: 978-573-765


    Proposed agenda is attached. 


    Details on group dinner option : CTI members are invited to sign up to attend a group dinner on Wednesday
    evening after the F2F. Family members and/or guests traveling along with you are also invited to join us. This is not a hosted dinner, so each participant (and their guests) will be responsible for covering the costs associated with their dinner. Please be
    sure to confirm the number of guests.


     

    Thanks so much and we look forward to seeing you all in Brussels!
    Regards, Jane




    **F2F/Dinner Attendees





    Bret Jordan





    Alexandre Dulaunoy





    Raymon van der Velde





    Ryusuke Masuoka





    Kazuo Noguchi





    Jason Keirstead





    Jerome Athias





    Allan Thomson





    Daniel Riedel





    John-Mark Gurney





    Carol Geyer





    Richard Struse





    Joerg Eschweiler





    Trey Darley





    Marko Dragoljevic





    Sergey Polzunov





    Aukjan van Belkum





    Wouter Bolsterlee





    Andras Iklody





    Mark Davidson





    Masato Terada







    --





    Jane Harnad

    Manager, Events

    OASIS Advancing open standards for the information society 
    +1.781.425.5073 x214 (Office)

    http://www.oasis-open.org

    Join OASIS at:
    Borderless Cyber Europe    8-9 Sept  Brussels


    Borderless Cyber Asia    1-2
    Nov   Tokyo










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  • 7.  RE: [cti] CTI Brussels F2F Meeting...RSVP deadline 5 September

    Posted 09-07-2016 10:25
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    Dear All,   I fully support this – having built some ISACs in industry as well as GOV classification/labeling is usually a “top 5 “ issue … if not at the time of initial set-up than usually later when information from different sources is to be shared and utilized. This might not be a primary issue from vendor side (although it should be as most TI is not under monolithic policy/license rights but compiled) it is definitely an issue from user perspective to handle, distribute and leverage TI properly,   Some of the commercially available systems on the market implement labeling/label-based-handling in a proprietary way as current information models/standards do not foresee this. If you e.g. look at OTRS (not a STIX/TAXI implementation but wide used for Service + Incident Mgt), actually an open source system but during the evolution also included labeling and handling according to this. No matter if e.g. TLP or other schemes are applied I strongly suggest to at least include the option to label objects and though enable/apply/enforce policy-based information exchange and handling.   Sunny greetings from Berlin & looking forward meeting you guys f2f on later Wednesday evening in Brussels, Joerg   From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Thompson, Dean Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 03:06 To: 'Terry MacDonald' <terry.macdonald@cosive.com>; 'cti@lists.oasis-open.org' <cti@lists.oasis-open.org>; 'cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org' <cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org> Subject: RE: [cti] CTI Brussels F2F Meeting...RSVP deadline 5 September     Hi!,   Can I add my voice in here as well and say that “Confidence” and also having an “Opinion” about Threat Intelligence is very important and is a concept that we use quite heavily when we are exchanging threat intelligence with other financial organisations and dealing with threat data that comes in via 3 rd parties and intelligence sources.   Can we please ensure that this is included in the agenda and discussed at the meeting ?   Regards,   Dean   From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ] On Behalf Of Terry MacDonald Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2016 8:18 AM To: cti@lists.oasis-open.org ; cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [cti] CTI Brussels F2F Meeting...RSVP deadline 5 September   Please say that we are including confidence and opinion object in STIX 2.1 candidate smackdown agenda item at the F2F.    We just can't treat everything that people send out as the absolute truth as we do in STIX 2.0. There is a reason things like the admiralty code were developed.... and that's because threat intelligence is always someone's opinion.We need a way for the consumer to understand how confident the producer is in the threat intelligence they are sending. It's up to the consumer to determine if they believe that its the truth, and they need various ways to determine this. That's a ton easier if the person who sent the threat intelligence to you tells you how much they trust the intelligence and trust the source of the intelligence with some form of confidence field.....   I really, really believe this is critical for STIX to work properly, and it was something that made it possible for STIX to automatically be pushed out to the different security tools within an organization (e.g. high confidence DNS to the DNS RPZ block, low confidence to the alerting on the passive DNS).   These are so easy to add to STIX, we would be remiss to skip it. Cheers   Terry MacDonald   Chief Product Officer     M:   +64 211 918 814 E:   terry.macdonald@cosive.com W:   www.cosive.com         On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Jane Harnad < jharnad@oasis-open.org > wrote: Dear CTI Members, The CTI TC F2F meeting is scheduled for Wednesday, 7 September at the Thon EU Hotel , Germany Room . Lunch and refreshments will be provided by OASIS. A headcount is needed ASAP. Below is a list of individuals that replied to the last RSVP request. If you don't see your name and do plan to participate in either the F2F meeting or group dinner, please send your RSVP no later than 5 September. Remote access is available to TC members unable to attend in person. Login details are: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/978573765 You can also dial in using your phone. United States (Toll-free): 1 866 899 4679 United States +1 (646) 749-3117 Access Code: 978-573-765 Proposed agenda is attached.  Details on group dinner option : CTI members are invited to sign up to attend a group dinner on Wednesday evening after the F2F. Family members and/or guests traveling along with you are also invited to join us. This is not a hosted dinner, so each participant (and their guests) will be responsible for covering the costs associated with their dinner. Please be sure to confirm the number of guests.   Thanks so much and we look forward to seeing you all in Brussels! Regards, Jane **F2F/Dinner Attendees Bret Jordan Alexandre Dulaunoy Raymon van der Velde Ryusuke Masuoka Kazuo Noguchi Jason Keirstead Jerome Athias Allan Thomson Daniel Riedel John-Mark Gurney Carol Geyer Richard Struse Joerg Eschweiler Trey Darley Marko Dragoljevic Sergey Polzunov Aukjan van Belkum Wouter Bolsterlee Andras Iklody Mark Davidson Masato Terada -- Jane Harnad Manager, Events OASIS Advancing open standards for the information society  +1.781.425.5073 x214 (Office) http://www.oasis-open.org Join OASIS at: Borderless Cyber Europe    8-9 Sept  Brussels Borderless Cyber Asia    1-2 Nov   Tokyo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that generates this mail.  Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php   This e-mail and any attachments to it (the "Communication") is, unless otherwise stated, confidential, may contain copyright material and is for the use only of the intended recipient. 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  • 8.  RE: [cti] CTI Brussels F2F Meeting...RSVP deadline 5 September

    Posted 09-07-2016 11:29
    I believe this particular facility exists already in STIX2.0, via the object marking feature. This includes policy-driven labels using standards-based syntaxes such as STANAG-4774, ESS, X.841, etc - the actual syntax is not specified and is up to implementations. Of note is that it's indirect - objects are marked with one or more identifers which can be resolved into object markings, and these object markings can be security labels, copyright information, and so on. On 7 Sep 2016 12:25, "JE" < je@cybersecurityscout.eu > wrote: Dear All,   I fully support this – having built some ISACs in industry as well as GOV classification/labeling is usually a “top 5 “ issue … if not at the time of initial set-up than usually later when information from different sources is to be shared and utilized. This might not be a primary issue from vendor side (although it should be as most TI is not under monolithic policy/license rights but compiled) it is definitely an issue from user perspective to handle, distribute and leverage TI properly,   Some of the commercially available systems on the market implement labeling/label-based-handling in a proprietary way as current information models/standards do not foresee this. If you e.g. look at OTRS (not a STIX/TAXI implementation but wide used for Service + Incident Mgt), actually an open source system but during the evolution also included labeling and handling according to this. No matter if e.g. TLP or other schemes are applied I strongly suggest to at least include the option to label objects and though enable/apply/enforce policy-based information exchange and handling.   Sunny greetings from Berlin & looking forward meeting you guys f2f on later Wednesday evening in Brussels, Joerg   From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto: cti@lists.oasis-open. org ] On Behalf Of Thompson, Dean Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 03:06 To: 'Terry MacDonald' < terry.macdonald@cosive.com >; ' cti@lists.oasis-open.org ' < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >; ' cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ' < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: RE: [cti] CTI Brussels F2F Meeting...RSVP deadline 5 September     Hi!,   Can I add my voice in here as well and say that “Confidence” and also having an “Opinion” about Threat Intelligence is very important and is a concept that we use quite heavily when we are exchanging threat intelligence with other financial organisations and dealing with threat data that comes in via 3 rd parties and intelligence sources.   Can we please ensure that this is included in the agenda and discussed at the meeting ?   Regards,   Dean   From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open. org ] On Behalf Of Terry MacDonald Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2016 8:18 AM To: cti@lists.oasis-open.org ; cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [cti] CTI Brussels F2F Meeting...RSVP deadline 5 September   Please say that we are including confidence and opinion object in STIX 2.1 candidate smackdown agenda item at the F2F.    We just can't treat everything that people send out as the absolute truth as we do in STIX 2.0. There is a reason things like the admiralty code were developed.... and that's because threat intelligence is always someone's opinion.We need a way for the consumer to understand how confident the producer is in the threat intelligence they are sending. It's up to the consumer to determine if they believe that its the truth, and they need various ways to determine this. That's a ton easier if the person who sent the threat intelligence to you tells you how much they trust the intelligence and trust the source of the intelligence with some form of confidence field.....   I really, really believe this is critical for STIX to work properly, and it was something that made it possible for STIX to automatically be pushed out to the different security tools within an organization (e.g. high confidence DNS to the DNS RPZ block, low confidence to the alerting on the passive DNS).   These are so easy to add to STIX, we would be remiss to skip it. Cheers   Terry MacDonald   Chief Product Officer     M:   +64 211 918 814 E:   terry.macdonald@cosive.com W:   www.cosive.com         On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Jane Harnad < jharnad@oasis-open.org > wrote: Dear CTI Members, The CTI TC F2F meeting is scheduled for Wednesday, 7 September at the Thon EU Hotel , Germany Room . Lunch and refreshments will be provided by OASIS. A headcount is needed ASAP. Below is a list of individuals that replied to the last RSVP request. If you don't see your name and do plan to participate in either the F2F meeting or group dinner, please send your RSVP no later than 5 September. Remote access is available to TC members unable to attend in person. Login details are: https://global.gotomeeting. com/join/978573765 You can also dial in using your phone. United States (Toll-free): 1 866 899 4679 United States +1 (646) 749-3117 Access Code: 978-573-765 Proposed agenda is attached.  Details on group dinner option : CTI members are invited to sign up to attend a group dinner on Wednesday evening after the F2F. Family members and/or guests traveling along with you are also invited to join us. This is not a hosted dinner, so each participant (and their guests) will be responsible for covering the costs associated with their dinner. Please be sure to confirm the number of guests.   Thanks so much and we look forward to seeing you all in Brussels! Regards, Jane **F2F/Dinner Attendees Bret Jordan Alexandre Dulaunoy Raymon van der Velde Ryusuke Masuoka Kazuo Noguchi Jason Keirstead Jerome Athias Allan Thomson Daniel Riedel John-Mark Gurney Carol Geyer Richard Struse Joerg Eschweiler Trey Darley Marko Dragoljevic Sergey Polzunov Aukjan van Belkum Wouter Bolsterlee Andras Iklody Mark Davidson Masato Terada -- Jane Harnad Manager, Events OASIS Advancing open standards for the information society  +1.781.425.5073 x214 (Office) http://www.oasis-open.org Join OASIS at: Borderless Cyber Europe    8-9 Sept  Brussels Borderless Cyber Asia    1-2 Nov   Tokyo ------------------------------ ------------------------------ --------- To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that generates this mail.  Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: https://www.oasis-open.org/ apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_ workgroups.php   This e-mail and any attachments to it (the "Communication") is, unless otherwise stated, confidential, may contain copyright material and is for the use only of the intended recipient. 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  • 9.  RE: [cti] CTI Brussels F2F Meeting...RSVP deadline 5 September

    Posted 09-07-2016 11:29
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    I believe this particular facility exists already in STIX2.0, via the object marking feature. This includes policy-driven labels using standards-based syntaxes such as STANAG-4774, ESS, X.841, etc - the actual syntax is not specified and is up to implementations. Of note is that it's indirect - objects are marked with one or more identifers which can be resolved into object markings, and these object markings can be security labels, copyright information, and so on. On 7 Sep 2016 12:25, "JE" < je@cybersecurityscout.eu > wrote: Dear All,   I fully support this – having built some ISACs in industry as well as GOV classification/labeling is usually a “top 5 “ issue … if not at the time of initial set-up than usually later when information from different sources is to be shared and utilized. This might not be a primary issue from vendor side (although it should be as most TI is not under monolithic policy/license rights but compiled) it is definitely an issue from user perspective to handle, distribute and leverage TI properly,   Some of the commercially available systems on the market implement labeling/label-based-handling in a proprietary way as current information models/standards do not foresee this. If you e.g. look at OTRS (not a STIX/TAXI implementation but wide used for Service + Incident Mgt), actually an open source system but during the evolution also included labeling and handling according to this. No matter if e.g. TLP or other schemes are applied I strongly suggest to at least include the option to label objects and though enable/apply/enforce policy-based information exchange and handling.   Sunny greetings from Berlin & looking forward meeting you guys f2f on later Wednesday evening in Brussels, Joerg   From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto: cti@lists.oasis-open. org ] On Behalf Of Thompson, Dean Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 03:06 To: 'Terry MacDonald' < terry.macdonald@cosive.com >; ' cti@lists.oasis-open.org ' < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >; ' cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org ' < cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: RE: [cti] CTI Brussels F2F Meeting...RSVP deadline 5 September     Hi!,   Can I add my voice in here as well and say that “Confidence” and also having an “Opinion” about Threat Intelligence is very important and is a concept that we use quite heavily when we are exchanging threat intelligence with other financial organisations and dealing with threat data that comes in via 3 rd parties and intelligence sources.   Can we please ensure that this is included in the agenda and discussed at the meeting ?   Regards,   Dean   From: cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open. org ] On Behalf Of Terry MacDonald Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2016 8:18 AM To: cti@lists.oasis-open.org ; cti-stix@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [cti] CTI Brussels F2F Meeting...RSVP deadline 5 September   Please say that we are including confidence and opinion object in STIX 2.1 candidate smackdown agenda item at the F2F.    We just can't treat everything that people send out as the absolute truth as we do in STIX 2.0. There is a reason things like the admiralty code were developed.... and that's because threat intelligence is always someone's opinion.We need a way for the consumer to understand how confident the producer is in the threat intelligence they are sending. It's up to the consumer to determine if they believe that its the truth, and they need various ways to determine this. That's a ton easier if the person who sent the threat intelligence to you tells you how much they trust the intelligence and trust the source of the intelligence with some form of confidence field.....   I really, really believe this is critical for STIX to work properly, and it was something that made it possible for STIX to automatically be pushed out to the different security tools within an organization (e.g. high confidence DNS to the DNS RPZ block, low confidence to the alerting on the passive DNS).   These are so easy to add to STIX, we would be remiss to skip it. Cheers   Terry MacDonald   Chief Product Officer     M:   +64 211 918 814 E:   terry.macdonald@cosive.com W:   www.cosive.com         On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Jane Harnad < jharnad@oasis-open.org > wrote: Dear CTI Members, The CTI TC F2F meeting is scheduled for Wednesday, 7 September at the Thon EU Hotel , Germany Room . Lunch and refreshments will be provided by OASIS. A headcount is needed ASAP. Below is a list of individuals that replied to the last RSVP request. If you don't see your name and do plan to participate in either the F2F meeting or group dinner, please send your RSVP no later than 5 September. Remote access is available to TC members unable to attend in person. Login details are: https://global.gotomeeting. com/join/978573765 You can also dial in using your phone. United States (Toll-free): 1 866 899 4679 United States +1 (646) 749-3117 Access Code: 978-573-765 Proposed agenda is attached.  Details on group dinner option : CTI members are invited to sign up to attend a group dinner on Wednesday evening after the F2F. Family members and/or guests traveling along with you are also invited to join us. This is not a hosted dinner, so each participant (and their guests) will be responsible for covering the costs associated with their dinner. Please be sure to confirm the number of guests.   Thanks so much and we look forward to seeing you all in Brussels! Regards, Jane **F2F/Dinner Attendees Bret Jordan Alexandre Dulaunoy Raymon van der Velde Ryusuke Masuoka Kazuo Noguchi Jason Keirstead Jerome Athias Allan Thomson Daniel Riedel John-Mark Gurney Carol Geyer Richard Struse Joerg Eschweiler Trey Darley Marko Dragoljevic Sergey Polzunov Aukjan van Belkum Wouter Bolsterlee Andras Iklody Mark Davidson Masato Terada -- Jane Harnad Manager, Events OASIS Advancing open standards for the information society  +1.781.425.5073 x214 (Office) http://www.oasis-open.org Join OASIS at: Borderless Cyber Europe    8-9 Sept  Brussels Borderless Cyber Asia    1-2 Nov   Tokyo ------------------------------ ------------------------------ --------- To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that generates this mail.  Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at: https://www.oasis-open.org/ apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_ workgroups.php   This e-mail and any attachments to it (the "Communication") is, unless otherwise stated, confidential, may contain copyright material and is for the use only of the intended recipient. If you receive the Communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete the Communication and the return e-mail, and do not read, copy, retransmit or otherwise deal with it. Any views expressed in the Communication are those of the individual sender only, unless expressly stated to be those of Australia and New Zealand Banking Group Limited ABN 11 005 357 522, or any of its related entities including ANZ Bank New Zealand Limited (together "ANZ"). ANZ does not accept liability in connection with the integrity of or errors in the Communication, computer virus, data corruption, interference or delay arising from or in respect of the Communication.