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    Posted 11-09-2017 11:36




    Hi!,
     
    That’s a good list.  There are a few little tweaks you would want to make to it, but it’s pretty comprehensive if we can adopt both the parent and sub-tree
    structure.
     
    Regards,
     
    Dean
     


    From: Patrick Maroney [mailto:pmaroney@wapacklabs.com]

    Sent: Wednesday, 8 November 2017 9:39 AM
    To: Thompson, Dean
    Cc: cti-publicmirror@lists.oasis-open.org; cti@lists.oasis-open.org; Taylor, Marlon
    Subject: Re: [cti-publicmirror] RE: [cti] Re: [EXT] Re: [cti] RE: Suggested Additions to industry-sector-ov


     
    One could just adopt the UN codes ( https://unstats.un.org/unsd/cr/registry/regcst.asp?Cl=27 ) as a baseline
    or alternate vocabulary.  

     


    Looks like MISP just adopts the US Critical Sectors.  Alexandre?

    Patrick Maroney


    Principal Engineer - Data Science & Analytics


    Wapack Labs LLC


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    (609)841-5104


     






    On Nov 7, 2017, at 5:22 PM, Thompson, Dean < Dean.Thompson@anz.com > wrote:


     
    Hi!,
     
    I am happy to stay away from the country designations as a prefix/suffix, because the list will get too over-whelming, my question was probably a little more
    generic in that isn’t a dam just water, but I am happy to leave other sector names in there.  Systems and analysts will select what is the most appropriate for them.
     
    Regards,
     
    Dean
     
     


    From: Allan Thomson [ mailto:athomson@lookingglasscyber.com ]

    Sent: Wednesday, 8 November 2017 3:53 AM
    To: Bret Jordan; Jason Keirstead; Thompson, Dean
    Cc: ' cti@lists.oasis-open.org '; 'Taylor, Marlon'
    Subject: Re: [cti] Re: [EXT] Re: [cti] RE: Suggested Additions to industry-sector-ov


     
    I think we need to recognize (as others have pointed out) that some of these sector definitions are region specific.
     
    So we might need to consider
     
    us_chemical_sector
    us_dams_sector
    Australia_energy_sector
    ……etc.
     
    If this introduces too many values in the ov then we should consider how to resolve the fact that there are differences across regions in these definitions.
     

    Allan

     
     

    From:
    " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org > on behalf of Bret Jordan < Bret_Jordan@symantec.com >
    Date: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 8:49 AM
    To: Jason Keirstead < Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com >, "Thompson, Dean" < Dean.Thompson@anz.com >
    Cc: " cti@lists.oasis-open.org " < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >, "Taylor, Marlon" < Marlon.Taylor@hq.dhs.gov >
    Subject: [cti] Re: [EXT] Re: [cti] RE: Suggested Additions to industry-sector-ov


     


    I will also post these comments and feedback on the github issue tracker for this.
     
    One of the things we tried really hard to do is make sure that we were not overly verbose with categories. Basically try and bubble up to a higher level group.  However, we probably missed a few here
    and there.
     
    1) Chemical Sector - Is this a one off, or are there others we need to add?  If so, is there a higher level category that we can come up with that contains this??
     
    2) Commercial Facilities Sector - Can you give an example of what this would be?
     
    3) Dams Sector - I think this would be handled by the "Infrastructure", "Energy", or "Utilities" sector categories
     
    4) Nuclear Reactors, Materials, and Waste Sector - For the Nuclear Reactors I figured they would be part of "Infrastructure", "Energy", or "Utilities".  Is the Materials / Waste specific to Nuclear
    ? If so I might suggest that we make the sector name just "Nuclear" and not put the various sub elements, because someone will just ask for one more sub element. 
     
    5) Water and Wastewater Systems Sector - I figured these would go in to "government-public-services" but I guess Water could also go in to "Infrastructure" depending on how you viewed it.
     
    If we do decide to add any of these, we should really try to figure out if they are just sub categories of something else, if so, we should use our adopted standard of toplevelcategory-subcategory style. 
     
    Bret
     





    From:
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org < cti@lists.oasis-open.org > on behalf of Jason Keirstead < Jason.Keirstead@ca.ibm.com >
    Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 7:17:24 AM
    To: Thompson, Dean
    Cc: ' cti@lists.oasis-open.org '; 'Taylor, Marlon'
    Subject: [EXT] Re: [cti] RE: Suggested Additions to industry-sector-ov


     



    In North America they're usually owned and operated by power utilities.

    -
    Jason Keirstead
    STSM, Product Architect, Security Intelligence, IBM Security Systems
    www.ibm.com/security

    Without data, all you are is just another person with an opinion - Unknown




    From:         "Thompson, Dean" < Dean.Thompson@anz.com >
    To:         "'Taylor, Marlon'" < Marlon.Taylor@hq.dhs.gov >,
    "' cti@lists.oasis-open.org '" < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Date:         11/07/2017 06:42 AM
    Subject:         [cti] RE: Suggested Additions to industry-sector-ov
    Sent by:         < cti@lists.oasis-open.org >






     
    Hi!,
     
    One quick one, but are “Dam’s” a subset of the “Water” sector.  I know in Australia we treat it like this.
     
    Regards,
     
    Dean
     
    From:
    cti@lists.oasis-open.org [ mailto:cti@lists.oasis-open.org ]
    On Behalf Of Taylor, Marlon
    Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2017 5:36 AM
    To: cti@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [cti] Suggested Additions to industry-sector-ov
     
    Hi TC,
     
    During the October F2F the omissions of specific some critical infrastructure was discussed and it was suggested to open a github issue to add those items to the industry-sector-ov.
    This change adds support for sectors not previously included and does not have a negative impact on the existing sectors.
     
    GITHUB LINK:
    https://github.com/oasis-tcs/cti-stix2/issues/34
     
    Are there any objections to including the resolution of this item into 2.1?
     
     
    Marlon Taylor
    Technology Services Section
    National Cybersecurity & Communications Integration Center (NCCIC)
    U.S. Department of Homeland Security
     

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