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  • 1.  Re: [csaf] CSAF member support for SBOM use of CSAF

    Posted 03-09-2021 17:53




    I echo Duncan s comments. We already have CSAF participants interested on collaborating (such as Stefan, Thomas, and myself). Duncan, you mentioned pick something different , what is the alternative? That
    may help the group also be aware of any other initiatives outside of SBOM VEX and CSAF.
     



    Regards,
     
    Omar Santos
    PSIRT, Security Research and Operations

    Cisco Systems
    Email: os@cisco.com



    PGP: https://keybase.io/santosomar
     

    From: <csaf@lists.oasis-open.org> on behalf of "duncan sfractal.com" <duncan@sfractal.com>
    Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 12:08 PM
    To: "csaf@lists.oasis-open.org" <csaf@lists.oasis-open.org>
    Cc: Dee Schur <dee.schur@oasis-open.org>, Jane Harnad <jharnad@oasis-open.org>, Carol Geyer <carol.geyer@oasis-open.org>, Chet Ensign <chet.ensign@oasis-open.org>
    Subject: [csaf] CSAF member support for SBOM use of CSAF


     

    Hi all,
    I m not sure if everyone is following the public comment channel of CSAF. I recommend you look at

    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/csaf-comment/202103/msg00000.html from Allan Friedman, an influential USG leader. His SBOM efforts (see
    https://www.ntia.gov/sbom and
    https://www.ntia.gov/SoftwareTransparency ) are gaining quite a lot of support both inside and outside of government (and not just US government).
     
    The VEX group he refers to is looking at CSAF for it s needs. However some members are raising objections because no one from CSAF is here . Personally I both understand their frustration (since members aren t
    informed enough to know whether CSAF meets the needs, and whether CSAF could evolve if it needed some tweak to meet the needs) but also think it is sometimes a red herring masking other issues (alternatives they are advocating, desire to slow process down,
    etc).
     
    Allan is inviting more participation in his group, and is willing to meet with CSAF participants to bring them on board. This is a non-trivial offer. I strongly advise anyone with an interest in CSAF succeeding
    to take Allan up on his offer. His SBOM group is both large and influential so his group picking CSAF would be a feather is CSAF cap. Conversely, if they roll their own or pick something different, it may hinder CSAF adoption.
     
    Duncan Sparrell
    sFractal Consulting LLC
    iPhone, iTypo, iApologize
    I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at  http://vsre.info /
     






  • 2.  RE: [csaf] CSAF member support for SBOM use of CSAF

    Posted 03-11-2021 13:31




    I echo Duncan s comments as well. We need to join efforts, competing standards and approaches will be poison for further adoption in the future. And we definitely do
    not want to stay in the current (desolate) situation in regards to automation of advisory and vulnerability information.
     
     
    Best regards,
    Tobi
     
    Tobias Limmer
    Principal Key Expert
    Siemens AG
    T RDA CST
    Otto-Hahn-Ring 6
    81739 Muenchen, Germany
    Mobile: +49 172 6703933
    mailto:tobias.limmer@siemens.com
     


    From: csaf@lists.oasis-open.org <csaf@lists.oasis-open.org>
    On Behalf Of Omar Santos (osantos)
    Sent: Dienstag, 9. MÃrz 2021 18:53
    To: duncan sfractal.com <duncan@sfractal.com>; csaf@lists.oasis-open.org; Friedman, Allan <AFriedman@ntia.gov>
    Cc: Dee Schur <dee.schur@oasis-open.org>; Jane Harnad <jharnad@oasis-open.org>; Carol Geyer <carol.geyer@oasis-open.org>; Chet Ensign <chet.ensign@oasis-open.org>
    Subject: Re: [csaf] CSAF member support for SBOM use of CSAF


     
    I echo Duncan s comments. We already have CSAF participants interested on collaborating (such as Stefan, Thomas, and myself). Duncan, you mentioned pick something different , what is the alternative?
    That may help the group also be aware of any other initiatives outside of SBOM VEX and CSAF.
     



    Regards,
     
    Omar Santos

    PSIRT, Security Research and Operations

    Cisco Systems
    Email:
    os@cisco.com



    PGP:
    https://keybase.io/santosomar
     

    From: < csaf@lists.oasis-open.org > on behalf of "duncan sfractal.com" < duncan@sfractal.com >
    Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 12:08 PM
    To: " csaf@lists.oasis-open.org " < csaf@lists.oasis-open.org >
    Cc: Dee Schur < dee.schur@oasis-open.org >, Jane Harnad < jharnad@oasis-open.org >, Carol Geyer < carol.geyer@oasis-open.org >,
    Chet Ensign < chet.ensign@oasis-open.org >
    Subject: [csaf] CSAF member support for SBOM use of CSAF


     

    Hi all,
    I m not sure if everyone is following the public comment channel of CSAF. I recommend you look at

    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/csaf-comment/202103/msg00000.html from Allan Friedman, an influential USG leader. His SBOM efforts (see

    https://www.ntia.gov/sbom and
    https://www.ntia.gov/SoftwareTransparency ) are gaining quite a lot of support both inside and outside of government (and not just US government).
     
    The VEX group he refers to is looking at CSAF for it s needs. However some members are raising objections because no one from CSAF is here . Personally I both understand their frustration (since
    members aren t informed enough to know whether CSAF meets the needs, and whether CSAF could evolve if it needed some tweak to meet the needs) but also think it is sometimes a red herring masking other issues (alternatives they are advocating, desire to slow
    process down, etc).
     
    Allan is inviting more participation in his group, and is willing to meet with CSAF participants to bring them on board. This is a non-trivial offer. I strongly advise anyone with an interest
    in CSAF succeeding to take Allan up on his offer. His SBOM group is both large and influential so his group picking CSAF would be a feather is CSAF cap. Conversely, if they roll their own or pick something different, it may hinder CSAF adoption.
     
    Duncan Sparrell
    sFractal Consulting LLC
    iPhone, iTypo, iApologize
    I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at  http://vsre.info /