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Hi,

Is there a way to only have a biblioentry once in the bibliography and then
cite the details multiple times?
So for example here in
https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/tools_citationguide/citation-guide-1.html

Something like this? (Though this doesn't work).

<para>......<footnote><para><citation linkend="isbn-9780143111641"/>,
315-16.</para></footnote>......</para>
...
<para>......<footnote><para><citation linkend="isbn-9780143111641"/>,
402.</para></footnote>......</para>
...
<bibliography>
<biblioentry
xml:id="isbn-9780143111641"><author><surname>Smith</surname><firstname>Zadie</firstname></author><publisher>

<city>New
York</city>

<publishername>Penguin
Press</publishername></publisher><date>2016</date><biblioid
class="isbn">9780143111641</biblioid> </biblioentry>
</bibliography>

Would produce:

.....Zadie Smith, Swing Time (New York: Penguin Press, 2016), 315–16...
.....Zadie Smith, Swing Time (New York: Penguin Press, 2016), 402....

That way the details only needed edited/updated once.

Thanks,

Peter

Hi Peter,

Am Tue, 27 Nov 2018 18:54:04 +0100
schrieb Peter Fleck <peterfleck@gmail.com>:

> Is there a way to only have a biblioentry once in the bibliography
> and then cite the details multiple times?
> So for example here in
> https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/tools_citationguide/citation-guide-1.html
>
> Something like this? (Though this doesn't work).
>
> <para>......<footnote><para><citation linkend="isbn-9780143111641"/>,
> 315-16.</para></footnote>......</para>
> ...
> <para>......<footnote><para><citation linkend="isbn-9780143111641"/>,
> 402.</para></footnote>......</para>

It seems, biblioref would be the appropriate tag for you:

https://tdg.docbook.org/tdg/5.1/biblioref.html

With biblioref you can add the attributes "begin", "end", and "units"
like this:

<para>See <biblioref begin="315" end="316" units="pages"
linkend="isbn-9780143111641"/>.</para>

If you process it with version 1.79.2 of the stylesheets, you will get
this result:

See [isbn-9780143111641].

It seems, the attributes above are unsupported. I think this is a bug
as I couldn't find any code which uses them. If you want to take them
into account, you need to write a customization layer.

One final note about citation. You can use it to reference multiple
bibliographic entries like this:

<para> See <citation><biblioref
linkend="A"/>, <biblioref linkend="B"/></citation>

which renders as:

See [A, B].

(watch for spaces inside <citation>).


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Gruß/Regards,
Thomas Schraitle

Am 28.11.2018 um 08:58 schrieb Thomas Schraitle:
> Hi Peter,
>
> Am Tue, 27 Nov 2018 18:54:04 +0100
> schrieb Peter Fleck <peterfleck@gmail.com>:
>
>> Is there a way to only have a biblioentry once in the bibliography
>> and then cite the details multiple times?
>> So for example here in
>> https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/tools_citationguide/citation-guide-1.html
>>
>> Something like this? (Though this doesn't work).
>>
>> <para>......<footnote><para><citation linkend="isbn-9780143111641"/>,
>> 315-16.</para></footnote>......</para>
>> ...
>> <para>......<footnote><para><citation linkend="isbn-9780143111641"/>,
>> 402.</para></footnote>......</para>
> It seems, biblioref would be the appropriate tag for you:
>
> https://tdg.docbook.org/tdg/5.1/biblioref.html
>
> With biblioref you can add the attributes "begin", "end", and "units"
> like this:
>
> <para>See <biblioref begin="315" end="316" units="pages"
> linkend="isbn-9780143111641"/>.</para>
>
> If you process it with version 1.79.2 of the stylesheets, you will get
> this result:
>
> See [isbn-9780143111641].
>
> It seems, the attributes above are unsupported. I think this is a bug
> as I couldn't find any code which uses them. If you want to take them
> into account, you need to write a customization layer.
>
> One final note about citation. You can use it to reference multiple
> bibliographic entries like this:
>
> <para> See <citation><biblioref
> linkend="A"/>, <biblioref linkend="B"/></citation>
>
> which renders as:
>
> See [A, B].
>
> (watch for spaces inside <citation>).
>
I have this form: <citation><biblioref linkend="SB85"/></citation>

and this biblioentry (shortened)

<biblioentry xreflabel="Schooley und Baker (1985)"  xml:id="SB85">
   <authorgroup>
       <author><personname><firstname>D.
A.</firstname><surname>Schooley</surname></personname></author>
       <author><personname><firstname>F.
C.</firstname><surname>Baker</surname></personname></author>
       <editor><personname><firstname>G.
A.</firstname><surname>Kerkut</surname></personname></editor>
   </authorgroup>
   <citetitle pubwork="chapter">Juvenile Hormone Biosynthesis</citetitle>
    <citetitle pubwork="book">Comprehensive insect physiology,
biochemistry, and pharmacology</citetitle>
   <publisher>
      <publishername>Pergamon Press</publishername>
   </publisher>
   <volumenum>7</volumenum>
  <pubdate>1985</pubdate> 
   
</biblioentry>

You may add the pagenumbers you want for the individual citation  here:

<citation><biblioref linkend="SB85"/>p. 405</citation>. You can also add
to the same place something like "and citations therein".

Regards

Bernhard

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Thanks Thomas. This is the way to go I think.
I see the comment in the xref.xsl file


<xsl:template match="d:biblioref" name="biblioref">

I'll open an issue on Github.

Peter

On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 08:58, Thomas Schraitle <tom_schr@web.de> wrote:

> Hi Peter,
>
> Am Tue, 27 Nov 2018 18:54:04 +0100
> schrieb Peter Fleck <peterfleck@gmail.com>:
>
> > Is there a way to only have a biblioentry once in the bibliography
> > and then cite the details multiple times?
> > So for example here in
> >
> https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/tools_citationguide/citation-guide-1.html
> >
> > Something like this? (Though this doesn't work).
> >
> > <para>......<footnote><para><citation linkend="isbn-9780143111641"/>,
> > 315-16.</para></footnote>......</para>
> > ...
> > <para>......<footnote><para><citation linkend="isbn-9780143111641"/>,
> > 402.</para></footnote>......</para>
>
> It seems, biblioref would be the appropriate tag for you:
>
> https://tdg.docbook.org/tdg/5.1/biblioref.html
>
> With biblioref you can add the attributes "begin", "end", and "units"
> like this:
>
> <para>See <biblioref begin="315" end="316" units="pages"
> linkend="isbn-9780143111641"/>.</para>
>
> If you process it with version 1.79.2 of the stylesheets, you will get
> this result:
>
> See [isbn-9780143111641].
>
> It seems, the attributes above are unsupported. I think this is a bug
> as I couldn't find any code which uses them. If you want to take them
> into account, you need to write a customization layer.
>
> One final note about citation. You can use it to reference multiple
> bibliographic entries like this:
>
> <para> See <citation><biblioref
> linkend="A"/>, <biblioref linkend="B"/></citation>
>
> which renders as:
>
> See [A, B].
>
> (watch for spaces inside <citation>).
>
>
> --
> Gruß/Regards,
> Thomas Schraitle
>
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