docbook-apps

  • 1.  It works quite nicely, but how about getting it printed ?

    Posted 05-15-2008 01:35
    Hello,

    I was wondering if anyone had an advice for a good (*) low-volume
    print-on-demand service in Europe(**) ?

    (*) good quality, fast, cheap, extra points for having ISO B5, Crown
    Quarto or equivalent paper sizes.
    (**) or able to deliver to France in my case.

    I hope my post won't be considered completely off-topic, since I use a
    (home-built and customized) "xsltproc + DocBook XSL + FOP" toolchain to
    produce manuals that we'd like to print. I think this information could
    be valuable to others on this list, and I'll share my experience.

    We've tried Lulu.com with mixed results : the choice of book types and
    formats is good, the quality of the result is good, but the delay is not
    that good. The really bad part is that sometimes we'd get a partial
    delivery only some books and not others (we have multiple manuals and we
    update them often). For a reason unknown at this time some PDF are not
    accepted by the printer (at the Lulu.com European partner located in
    Spain, it seems). It is not the (quite classic it seems) font embedding
    problem (all fonts are reported by Adobe Acrobat Reader as "Embedded").
    This problem is handled quite poorly by Lulu.com: you are not
    automatically notified of this kind of problems, you have to notify
    them about the missing book, they start a refund procedure but you have
    to manual reorder the missing books. The 3-4 weeks turn-around time
    between an order and a partial delivery hasn't allowed me to do any kind
    of debugging, and Lulu.com currently doesn't have any details or
    explanations for the problem.

    Sincerely,
    --
    Mathias Brossard




  • 2.  RE: [docbook-apps] It works quite nicely, but how about getting it printed ?

    Posted 05-15-2008 07:28
    Hi,

    Have you tried http://www.imprimermonlivre.com/ from the French
    printer Jouve?

    It's not exactly "on demand", they print batches of books and
    deliver them to you (your readers cannot order just one book)
    but according to what you do with Lulu it could suit your needs?

    I have not tried them yet but was meaning to, so I would be
    much interested by your experience, if any.

    Regards,
    EB


    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Mathias Brossard [mailto:mathias.brossard@opentrust.com]
    > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 3:35 AM
    > To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org
    > Subject: [docbook-apps] It works quite nicely, but how about getting it
    > printed ?
    >
    >
    > Hello,
    >
    > I was wondering if anyone had an advice for a good (*) low-volume
    > print-on-demand service in Europe(**) ?
    >
    > (*) good quality, fast, cheap, extra points for having ISO B5, Crown
    > Quarto or equivalent paper sizes.
    > (**) or able to deliver to France in my case.
    >
    > I hope my post won't be considered completely off-topic,
    > since I use a
    > (home-built and customized) "xsltproc + DocBook XSL + FOP" toolchain to
    > produce manuals that we'd like to print. I think this information could
    > be valuable to others on this list, and I'll share my experience.
    >
    > We've tried Lulu.com with mixed results : the choice of
    > book types and
    > formats is good, the quality of the result is good, but the delay is not
    > that good. The really bad part is that sometimes we'd get a partial
    > delivery only some books and not others (we have multiple manuals and we
    > update them often). For a reason unknown at this time some PDF are not
    > accepted by the printer (at the Lulu.com European partner located in
    > Spain, it seems). It is not the (quite classic it seems) font embedding
    > problem (all fonts are reported by Adobe Acrobat Reader as "Embedded").
    > This problem is handled quite poorly by Lulu.com: you are not
    > automatically notified of this kind of problems, you have to notify
    > them about the missing book, they start a refund procedure but you have
    > to manual reorder the missing books. The 3-4 weeks turn-around time
    > between an order and a partial delivery hasn't allowed me to do any kind
    > of debugging, and Lulu.com currently doesn't have any details or
    > explanations for the problem.
    >
    > Sincerely,
    > --
    > Mathias Brossard
    >
    >
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