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to ask a rather silly question. The snapshot page only shows the last
snapshot being in November and the instructions say that this page is
updated automatically when there are checkins.

But according to this page, the latest check ins for anything seems to
be in November.
http://docbook.sourceforge.net/snapshot/

Is this information just not current? If I actually used subversion to
pull things to my machine, would I get substantially more up-to-date
stylesheets?

(I'm talking about all stylesheets, not just the ns version).


Robert



On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Shlomi Fish <shlomif@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> Where are the new docbook-xsl-ns snapshots? The last one here -
> http://docbook.sourceforge.net/snapshot/ - was only updated on
> November of 2010 (last year).
>

I should also note that the DocBook SourceForge.net bug tracker has
several unaddressed bugs:

https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?words=tracker_browse&sort=submitted_by&sortdir=desc&offset=50&group_id=21935&atid=373747&assignee=&status=1&category=&artgroup=&keyword=&submitter=&artifact_id=

I've been waiting for a response for the EPUB one for a few weeks now.

Regards,

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On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Robert Nagle <idiotprogrammer@gmail.com> wrote:
> to ask a rather silly question. The snapshot page only shows the last
> snapshot being in November and the instructions say that this page is
> updated automatically when there are checkins.
>
> But according to this page, the latest check ins for anything seems to
> be in November.
> http://docbook.sourceforge.net/snapshot/
>
> Is this information just not current? If I actually used subversion to
> pull things to my machine, would I get substantially more up-to-date
> stylesheets?
>
> (I'm talking about all stylesheets, not just the ns version).

There were checkins after that [1] but the build got broken around
that time [2]. Docbook dearly need a helping hand to fix the broken
piece.

Thanks,
--Kasun

[1] http://cia.vc/stats/project/docbook
[2] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=docbook-snapshots

>
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Shlomi Fish <shlomif@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi all.
>>
>> Where are the new docbook-xsl-ns snapshots? The last one here -
>> http://docbook.sourceforge.net/snapshot/ - was only updated on
>> November of 2010 (last year).
>>
>
> I should also note that the DocBook SourceForge.net bug tracker has
> several unaddressed bugs:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?words=tracker_browse&sort=submitted_by&sortdir=desc&offset=50&group_id=21935&atid=373747&assignee=&status=1&category=&artgroup=&keyword=&submitter=&artifact_id=
>
> I've been waiting for a response for the EPUB one for a few weeks now.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Robert Nagle
> 12777 Ashford Point Dr #1417
> Houston, Texas 77082
> 713 893 3424 Carbon Neutral Since Jan 2010
> http://www.robertnagle.info
>
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Twitter: http://twitter.com/kasunbg

Hi all,

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Kasun Gajasinghe
<kasun.gajasinghe@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Robert Nagle <idiotprogrammer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> to ask a rather silly question. The snapshot page only shows the last
>> snapshot being in November and the instructions say that this page is
>> updated automatically when there are checkins.
>>
>> But according to this page, the latest check ins for anything seems to
>> be in November.
>> http://docbook.sourceforge.net/snapshot/
>>
>> Is this information just not current? If I actually used subversion to
>> pull things to my machine, would I get substantially more up-to-date
>> stylesheets?
>>
>> (I'm talking about all stylesheets, not just the ns version).
>
> There were checkins after that [1] but the build got broken around
> that time [2]. Docbook dearly need a helping hand to fix the broken
> piece.
>

I'm willing to help and have the time for that. Where do I start?

Regards,

-- Shlomi Fish

> Thanks,
> --Kasun
>
> [1] http://cia.vc/stats/project/docbook
> [2] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=docbook-snapshots
>

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that. Forgot a lot. Remember too much.

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Shlomi Fish <shlomif@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Kasun Gajasinghe
> <kasun.gajasinghe@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Robert Nagle <idiotprogrammer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> to ask a rather silly question. The snapshot page only shows the last
>>> snapshot being in November and the instructions say that this page is
>>> updated automatically when there are checkins.
>>>
>>> But according to this page, the latest check ins for anything seems to
>>> be in November.
>>> http://docbook.sourceforge.net/snapshot/
>>>
>>> Is this information just not current? If I actually used subversion to
>>> pull things to my machine, would I get substantially more up-to-date
>>> stylesheets?
>>>
>>> (I'm talking about all stylesheets, not just the ns version).
>>
>> There were checkins after that [1] but the build got broken around
>> that time [2]. Docbook dearly need a helping hand to fix the broken
>> piece.
>>
>
> I'm willing to help and have the time for that. Where do I start?

Hi Shlomi,
The log for broken build is at [1]. First, you have to go through it
and figure out what causes the build failure. After identifying the
error, you may ask about any help from the list on how to proceed. You
may attempt to fix the error in the DocBook source then. (Hope you are
aware of checking out source, submitting patches etc. ) The issue
haven't been fixed for around five months which suggest that little
digging will be needed and the fix might not be an obvious one!

At a previous discussion it was suggested that following causes the
error. This *might* be the case.

tar: ../testdocs/i18n: Cannot utime: Operation not permitted
tar: ../testdocs/graphics: Cannot utime: Operation not permitted
tar: ../testdocs/tests/mathml: Cannot utime: Operation not permitted
tar: ../testdocs/tests/ebnf: Cannot utime: Operation not permitted
tar: ../testdocs/tests/svg: Cannot utime: Operation not permitted
tar: ../testdocs/tests: Cannot utime: Operation not permitted
tar: ../testdocs/imagelib: Cannot utime: Operation not permitted
tar: ../testdocs: Cannot utime: Operation not permitted
tar: ..: Cannot utime: Operation not permitted
tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
make: [zip] Error 2 (ignored)

[1] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=E1PD0em-0004BI-D8%40sideshowbarker.net&forum_name=docbook-snapshots

Glad you're interested in fixing this and much appreciate your help.

Regards,
--Kasun

>
> Regards,
>
> -- Shlomi Fish
>
>> Thanks,
>> --Kasun
>>
>> [1] http://cia.vc/stats/project/docbook
>> [2] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=docbook-snapshots
>>
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------
> Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/
>
> Electrical Engineering studies. In the Technion. Been there. Done
> that. Forgot a lot. Remember too much.
>



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Kasun Gajasinghe,
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Sri Lanka.
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Twitter: http://twitter.com/kasunbg

On 04/21/2011 11:52 PM, Kasun Gajasinghe wrote:
> Glad you're interested in fixing this and much appreciate your help.
>
> Regards,
> --Kasun

Likewise, I'd love to see it fixed and would be willing to help in any
way I can, but is my understanding correct that the snapshot builds are
turned off now (and I have been since November)? So to diagnose any
problem we first need someone with access to the build machine to turn
the builds back on, then we could see if they're still broken, what the
log says, and proceed from there.

Thanks,
David

On 22 Apr 2011, at 05:52, Kasun Gajasinghe wrote:

> At a previous discussion it was suggested that following causes the
> error. This *might* be the case.
>
> tar: ../testdocs/i18n: Cannot utime: Operation not permitted
> tar: ../testdocs/graphics: Cannot utime: Operation not permitted
> tar: ../testdocs/tests/mathml: Cannot utime: Operation not permitted
> tar: ../testdocs/tests/ebnf: Cannot utime: Operation not permitted
> tar: ../testdocs/tests/svg: Cannot utime: Operation not permitted
> tar: ../testdocs/tests: Cannot utime: Operation not permitted
> tar: ../testdocs/imagelib: Cannot utime: Operation not permitted
> tar: ../testdocs: Cannot utime: Operation not permitted
> tar: ..: Cannot utime: Operation not permitted
> tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
> make: [zip] Error 2 (ignored)
>
> [1] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=E1PD0em-0004BI-D8%40sideshowbarker.net&forum_name=docbook-snapshots

The line causing these errors is:

tar cfP - -X /scratch/tar.exclude * .[^.]* | (cd /scratch/docbook-xsl-snapshot; tar xfP -)

Googling for the error brought up <http://www.unix.com/unix-advanced-expert-users/56567-problem-tar.html> which suggests it is a problem during the untarring, and adding m to the options (ie tar xfPm -) would help.

Tar's P option tries to preserve all the permissions and timestamps; Pm will do that *except* for the timestamps.

But why is tar trying to call utime in the first place? I see a number of lines much earlier on using touch like this:

touch -t 197001010000 `basename $f`

I'd *guess* that's the root cause. Why is the Makefile trying to set the modification times back to (time_t)0?

Chris

Hi,

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Robert Nagle <idiotprogrammer@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is this information just not current?

Yes, it's totally incorrect.

> If I actually used subversion to
> pull things to my machine, would I get substantially more up-to-date
> stylesheets?

You can browse the changes to SVN here:
http://docbook.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/docbook/trunk/
This was the last one that changed the behavior of DocBook-XSL:
http://docbook.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/docbook?view=revision&revision=8993
Alternately, you can see the changes as a graph:
http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/detail.php?group_id=21935&ugn=docbook&type=svn&mode=12months


Keith