docbook-apps

  • 1.  Re: [docbook-apps] Storing data within Docbook?

    Posted 11-20-2013 00:37
    This sounds really interesting and viable, the second being the profiling of the role attribute (which I'd like to avoid if I can due to good advice given here<http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/ProfilingWithRole.html>). However it seems the schema doesn't allow adding other elements, even from other namespaces? Adding an an <extradata:info> to a <row> (the ideal situation; easiest to deal with then when working with XSLT on it!) gives a validation error: E [Jing] element "extradata:info" not allowed here; expected element "entry" or "entrytbl"

    On 19/11/13 23:19, Jirka Kosek wrote:

    On 19.11.2013 1:34, Vadim Peretokin wrote:


    I'm transforming some data from an XML format into a Docbook table - but not all of the data in the XML is to be displayed in Docbook. I would, however, like to store it in my Docbook XML - because future transformations would like to read my Docbook XML and they'd need all of the data that went into it. I'd rather not introduce a secondary file for storing the extra data - this would bring complications and fragility.



    The easiest way to do this is to add <info> element to the table and put
    you raw XML data there -- they just must be in different namespace then
    DocBook in order to validate.

    Jirka




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  • 2.  Re: [docbook-apps] Storing data within Docbook?

    Posted 11-20-2013 00:53
    Jirka's suggestion is the best approach. It gives you all the flexiblity
    in the world with no extra work. Here's how it might look:

    ...


    <para>
    <info>
    <vadim:metadata xmlns:vadim="http://somedomain-you-own/some-namespace-you-makeup">
    <vadim:somefield>somedata</vadim:somefield>
    </vadim:metadata>
    </info>
    Ipsum lorem. Stuff readers see goes here.
    </para>

    ...

    DocBook's info element and its contents are already ignored by the xslts.
    You can encode your data in xml as complex as it needs to be in a namespace
    of your invention. Here's another way of doing it if you don't like namespace prefixes:



    <para>
    <info>
    <metadata xmlns="http://somedomain-you-own/some-namespace-you-makeup">
    <somefield>somedata</somefield>
    </metadata>
    </info>
    Ipsum lorem. Stuff readers see goes here.
    </para>


    Regards,
    David

    On 11/19/2013 06:36 PM, Vadim Peretokin wrote:
    > This sounds really interesting and viable, the second being the
    > profiling of the role attribute (which I'd like to avoid if I can due to
    > good advice given here
    > <http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/ProfilingWithRole.html>). However it
    > seems the schema doesn't allow adding other elements, even from other
    > namespaces? Adding an an <extradata:info> to a <row> (the ideal
    > situation; easiest to deal with then when working with XSLT on it!)
    > gives a validation error: E [Jing] element "extradata:info" not allowed
    > here; expected element "entry" or "entrytbl"
    >
    > On 19/11/13 23:19, Jirka Kosek wrote:
    >> On 19.11.2013 1:34, Vadim Peretokin wrote:
    >>> I'm transforming some data from an XML format into a Docbook table - but not all of the data in the XML is to be displayed in Docbook. I would, however, like to store it in my Docbook XML - because future transformations would like to read my Docbook XML and they'd need all of the data that went into it. I'd rather not introduce a secondary file for storing the extra data - this would bring complications and fragility.
    >> The easiest way to do this is to add <info> element to the table and put
    >> you raw XML data there -- they just must be in different namespace then
    >> DocBook in order to validate.
    >>
    >> Jirka
    >>
    >>
    >
    > --
    >
    > Vadim Peretokin
    > Clinical Information Modeller
    > *nehta - National E-Health Transition Authority*
    > Level 2, 10 Browning St, West End, QLD 4101, Australia
    > Phone: (0) 3023 8573
    > Email: vadim.peretokin@nehta.gov.au <mailto:firstname.lastname@nehta.gov.au>
    > Web: www.nehta.gov.au <http://www.nehta.gov.au>
    >
    >
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  • 3.  Re: [docbook-apps] Storing data within Docbook?

    Posted 11-20-2013 17:05
    Oh, wow, I didn't understand at first from what Jirka said, that the idea
    here was to put the full original xml data embedded in the <info> element,
    for downstream use. That's a neat trick. I was still thinking along the
    lines of 'I want to convert my source xml to some docbook format but hide
    some additional data within it.' Thanks for elaborating, David.

    --Aaron


    On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:53 PM, David Cramer <david@thingbag.net> wrote:

    > Jirka's suggestion is the best approach. It gives you all the flexiblity
    > in the world with no extra work. Here's how it might look:
    >
    > ...
    >
    >
    > <para>
    > <info>
    > <vadim:metadata xmlns:vadim="
    > http://somedomain-you-own/some-namespace-you-makeup">
    > <vadim:somefield>somedata</vadim:somefield>
    > </vadim:metadata>
    > </info>
    > Ipsum lorem. Stuff readers see goes here.
    > </para>
    >
    > ...
    >
    > DocBook's info element and its contents are already ignored by the xslts.
    > You can encode your data in xml as complex as it needs to be in a namespace
    > of your invention. Here's another way of doing it if you don't like
    > namespace prefixes:
    >
    >
    >
    > <para>
    > <info>
    > <metadata xmlns="
    > http://somedomain-you-own/some-namespace-you-makeup">
    > <somefield>somedata</somefield>
    > </metadata>
    > </info>
    > Ipsum lorem. Stuff readers see goes here.
    > </para>
    >
    >
    > Regards,
    > David
    >
    > On 11/19/2013 06:36 PM, Vadim Peretokin wrote:
    > > This sounds really interesting and viable, the second being the
    > > profiling of the role attribute (which I'd like to avoid if I can due to
    > > good advice given here
    > > <http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/ProfilingWithRole.html>). However it
    > > seems the schema doesn't allow adding other elements, even from other
    > > namespaces? Adding an an <extradata:info> to a <row> (the ideal
    > > situation; easiest to deal with then when working with XSLT on it!)
    > > gives a validation error: E [Jing] element "extradata:info" not allowed
    > > here; expected element "entry" or "entrytbl"
    > >
    > > On 19/11/13 23:19, Jirka Kosek wrote:
    > >> On 19.11.2013 1:34, Vadim Peretokin wrote:
    > >>> I'm transforming some data from an XML format into a Docbook table -
    > but not all of the data in the XML is to be displayed in Docbook. I would,
    > however, like to store it in my Docbook XML - because future
    > transformations would like to read my Docbook XML and they'd need all of
    > the data that went into it. I'd rather not introduce a secondary file for
    > storing the extra data - this would bring complications and fragility.
    > >> The easiest way to do this is to add <info> element to the table and put
    > >> you raw XML data there -- they just must be in different namespace then
    > >> DocBook in order to validate.
    > >>
    > >> Jirka
    > >>
    > >>
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > Vadim Peretokin
    > > Clinical Information Modeller
    > > *nehta - National E-Health Transition Authority*
    > > Level 2, 10 Browning St, West End, QLD 4101, Australia
    > > Phone: (0) 3023 8573
    > > Email: vadim.peretokin@nehta.gov.au <mailto:
    > firstname.lastname@nehta.gov.au>
    > > Web: www.nehta.gov.au <http://www.nehta.gov.au>
    > >
    > >
    > >
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