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Hi folks, I thought we allowed namespace qualified attributes on DocBook elements, but that doesn t seem to be the case (except on namespace qualified extension elements within info wrappers). Did I imagine that? Did we decide explicitly not to allow that? Be seeing you, norm -- Norman Tovey-Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com> https://nwalsh.com/ > Computer Science is the first engineering discipline in which the > complexity of the objects created is limited solely by the skill of the > creator, and not by the strength of raw materials.--B. Reid Attachment: signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Hi Norm, Are you referring to allowing attributes that are in a namespace other than the DocBook namespace to appear on DocBook elements? I thought other namespaced attributes did not have to be accounted for in the DocBook schema but were instead validated using NVDL? Bob On 8/11/2022 9:48 AM, Norm Tovey-Walsh wrote: Hi folks, I thought we allowed namespace qualified attributes on DocBook elements, but that doesn t seem to be the case (except on namespace qualified extension elements within info wrappers). Did I imagine that? Did we decide explicitly not to allow that? Be seeing you, norm -- Norman Tovey-Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com> https://nwalsh.com/ Computer Science is the first engineering discipline in which the complexity of the objects created is limited solely by the skill of the creator, and not by the strength of raw materials.--B. Reid

> Are you referring to allowing attributes that are in a namespace other > than the DocBook namespace to appear on DocBook elements? I thought > other namespaced attributes did not have to be accounted for in the > DocBook schema but were instead validated using NVDL? The DocBook schema doesn t have to validate them, but it must allow them. (You can tease apart a document and validate different sections with different schemas using NVDL, but I don t think you can validate the structure and some attributes with one schema and other attributes on the same elements with a different schema.) Given that you thought it was done with NVDL and I thought it just worked, I infer that we both thought it was possible. I m tempted to squeeze it into a 5.2CR3. Lots of vocabularies allow it and it doesn t do any harm. (The question came up in relation to a use case with a DocBook user.) Be seeing you, norm -- Norman Tovey-Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com> https://nwalsh.com/ > I am but a blood, bone, and muscle platform that holds up the camera. > The pictures take themselves.--James Tallon Attachment: signature.asc Description: PGP signature

I'm ok with it adding it to CR3. Scott? Norm, let us know when you have prepared it so we can review it. Thanks. Bob On 8/12/2022 12:40 AM, Norm Tovey-Walsh wrote: Are you referring to allowing attributes that are in a namespace other than the DocBook namespace to appear on DocBook elements? I thought other namespaced attributes did not have to be accounted for in the DocBook schema but were instead validated using NVDL? The DocBook schema doesn t have to validate them, but it must allow them. (You can tease apart a document and validate different sections with different schemas using NVDL, but I don t think you can validate the structure and some attributes with one schema and other attributes on the same elements with a different schema.) Given that you thought it was done with NVDL and I thought it just worked, I infer that we both thought it was possible. I m tempted to squeeze it into a 5.2CR3. Lots of vocabularies allow it and it doesn t do any harm. (The question came up in relation to a use case with a DocBook user.) Be seeing you, norm -- Norman Tovey-Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com> https://nwalsh.com/ I am but a blood, bone, and muscle platform that holds up the camera. The pictures take themselves.--James Tallon

agreed!

--Scott
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I'm ok with it adding it to CR3.  Scott?
Norm, let us know when you have prepared it so we can review it.
Thanks.

Bob

On 8/12/2022 12:40 AM, Norm Tovey-Walsh wrote:



Are you referring to allowing attributes that are in a namespace other
than the DocBook namespace to appear on DocBook elements? I thought
other namespaced attributes did not have to be accounted for in the
DocBook schema but were instead validated using NVDL?


The DocBook schema doesn t have to validate them, but it must allow
them. (You can tease apart a document and validate different sections
with different schemas using NVDL, but I don t think you can validate
the structure and some attributes with one schema and other attributes
on the same elements with a different schema.)

Given that you thought it was done with NVDL and I thought it just
worked, I infer that we both thought it was possible.

I m tempted to squeeze it into a 5.2CR3. Lots of vocabularies allow it
and it doesn t do any harm. (The question came up in relation to a use
case with a DocBook user.)

Be seeing you,
norm

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Norman Tovey-Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com>
https://nwalsh.com/



I am but a blood, bone, and muscle platform that holds up the camera.
The pictures take themselves.--James Tallon