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  • 1.  FW: Surname and Firstname

    Posted 03-25-2009 16:01
    Since this went out some time ago, I thought I would resend it
    so people don't have to search through their mail folder from
    last month.
    
    Regards,
    Larry
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rowland, Larry 
    Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:57 AM
    To: DocBook Technical Committee
    Subject: Surname and Firstname
    
    I have investigated the issue regarding what to use for names of
    people.  It is quite interesting and the exchange in the mailing 
    list that Norm mentioned was fascinating.  However, it did not
    really provide compelling reasons to adopt something other than
    givenname as the complement to surname nor to abandon surname. 
    
    As far as standards go, there are a number of them but most seem
    to be very Western oriented (firstname/middlename/lastname) and
    while more consistent than what we currently use, not really
    superior.  Others seem overly complex for what we need.
    
    After considerable additional research on the Web, I did not find 
    significant reasons for abandoning the givenname/surname model.  
    I recommend replacing firstname with givenname, which is widely 
    accepted as a complement to surname.  We should consider 
    supplementing it with othername or additionalname to cover things 
    like nicknames or maiden names, but simply explaining that 
    firstname really means given name seems weak.  If we do go down 
    the path of modifying our name elements, attributes may be 
    appropriate for specializing the othername/additionalname but 
    may not be necessary for our purpose (which is really to allow 
    identifying a person without too much cultural bias).  I would
    be happy to pursue what attributes might be appropriate if
    we decide to modify our names.
    
    However, if simply changing the descriptions is what we are going 
    to do, here is what I would recommend.
    
    
    For surname
    
    Current:
    
      surname - A family name; in western cultures the last name
    
      Description
    
      A Surname is a family name; in Western cultures, the last name. 
    
    Recommended Change:
    
      surname - An inherited or family name; in western cultures the
      last name 
    
      Description
    
      A Surname is an inherited or family name; in Western cultures, the
      last name.  This is used for the patronymic or matronymic or any
      name that is based on a persons situation at birth or due to
      marriage or adoption.
    
    For firstname
    
    Current:
    
      firstname - The first name of a person
    
      Description
    
      The Western-style first name of an author, editor, or other
      individual. 
    
    
    Recommended Change
    
      firstname - A given name of a person.
    
      Description
    
      Use firstname for any given name or chosen name of a person.  This is 
      also used for forenames and nicknames. 
    
    Looking forward to discussing this.
    
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