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  • 1.  RE: [ebxml-msg] Groups - ebms-v3-part2-PR-commented.odt uploaded

    Posted 10-25-2010 07:27
     
    Hello,
    
    I've looked at the issue again, and now believe the
    constraint on units with a "always" policy I was assuming
    until last week is in fact unnecessary, so I agree with the
    original proposed update to:
    
    These referenced message units MUST NOT have a value never
    for Pmode[].bundling.policy.
    
    Sorry for the confusion, and hopefully we've now addressed
    all outstanding content issues with the spec.
    
    For the next revision we do need to look at the section
    numbering, whi:
    
    -  There is a jump from 2.7.2 to 4.1.1
    -  Another one from 7.2 to 11.
    -  A third one from 11.3 to 12.1
    -  A fourth one from 12.9 to 14
    
    Pim
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Pim van der Eijk [mailto:pvde@sonnenglanz.net] 
    Sent: 21 October 2010 17:35
    To: 'ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org'
    Subject: RE: [ebxml-msg] Groups -
    ebms-v3-part2-PR-commented.odt uploaded
    
     
    Hello,
    
    Here is a comment on the proposed update in line 1912 of
    this edited version of the document. 
    I propose we rephrase this as:
    
    "These referenced message units MUST have a value "optional"
    for Pmode[].bundling.policy".
    
    When we bundle a message unit with another unit, that other
    unit must support bundling, so its value for
    Pmode[].bundling.policy MUST NOT be "never", as Theo
    proposes.
    
    A bundling algorithm (not the only conceivable one, but a
    very simple one and one used in my bundling ebMS 3
    prototype) works basically by picking a unit U1 (at the
    latest bundling.maxdelay after submitting) with pmode P1
    with value "optional" for Pmode[].bundling.policy as the
    primary unit and adding zero or more units with pmodes that
    have P1 in their compatability list (subject to
    bundling.maxsize constraints). If there are none, the unit
    can sent as a standalone message. This mechanism does not
    work for units that have the value "always", since they
    always depend on some other unit.  If there is none, the
    message unit would fail. So to prevent this, these
    referenced message units also MUST NOT have a value "always"
    for Pmode[].bundling.policy. 
    
    So both the original and the proposed revision make sense.
    But right now there are too many negations in the text, so
    rephrasing the text as I am proposing here to require
    "optional" makes the text easier to read.
    
    Pim
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: pim.vandereijk@oasis-open.org
    [mailto:pim.vandereijk@oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of
    sander@fieten-it.com
    Sent: 18 October 2010 21:21
    To: ebxml-msg@lists.oasis-open.org
    Subject: [ebxml-msg] Groups - ebms-v3-part2-PR-commented.odt
    uploaded
    
    Team,
    
    as agreed on last weeks call I looked at the review document
    of Theo Kramer. Theo made a lot of editorial changes which I
    agreed with and therefor didn't made changes to or commented
    on.
    Beside the changes Theo also added some notes to the text. I
    responded to all the notes and made some changes based on
    the notes. 
    
    Regards,
    Sander   
    
     -- Mr. Sander Fieten
    
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